Originally posted by carver9"ou said Captain Atom can destroy Hulk molecules, I posted a scan of Hulk resisting said attack. You said Captain Atom could shrink Hulk, I posted a scan of Hulk overpowering said attack. You said Captain Atom could freeze time, I posted a scan of Hulk powering through time stop.
Its a months prep...Strange doesn't have to leave his lab to beat Superman, especially since both have basic knowledge of each other. You are comparing a guy that has stopped Celestials and Abstracts with less prep to a freaking Herald. Stop.My comments are based off on panel showings that you ignored in our last debate. You said Captain Atom can destroy Hulk molecules, I posted a scan of Hulk resisting said attack. You said Captain Atom could shrink Hulk, I posted a scan of Hulk overpowering said attack. You said Captain Atom could freeze time, I posted a scan of Hulk powering through time stop.
You kept going on and on and on which lead to me getting bored because your arguments were lame and you hid behind the word liar because you didn't have a defense. So I'm trying to figure out why I would debate against you with anything concerning Hulk when you know little of the character. Just know that Hulk stomps all.
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Find someone else to debate against.
You kept going on and on and on which lead to me getting bored because your arguments were lame and you hid behind the word liar because you didn't have a defense. So I'm trying to figure out why I would debate against you with anything concerning Hulk when you know little of the character. Just know that Hulk stomps all."
Lol, you mean you compared an "aging ray" to a reality warper, I showed you multiple scans of cap atom being able to completely alter the atoms of something along with him absorbing countless copies of himself from other universes. YOU DID NOTHING TO COUNTER MY SPEED FEATS AND TIME MANIPULATION FEATS. You lost that debate.
Hulk has never withstood reality warping on the lvl of captain atom, i furthered my points with countless feat and you ignored every single one of them and DID NOTHING TO TELL ME HOW THE HULK COULD BEAT HIM.
"Hulk can counter his speed by punching Atom in the face." this is what you said when you did not have an argument to counter my speed feats, you ignored my points and could not give me any answer on how the hulk can beat him.
Hulk has never and cannot stop from his atoms being altered completely, you have no answers for the points i made so you simply ignored them, YOU STILL NEVER ANSWERED HOW HULK CAN DO ANYTHING TO CAPTAIN ATOM.
I SEE YOU ARE TRYING TO RUN AWAY FROM DEBATING HULK VS SUPERMAN....you are hilarious
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Originally posted by thingy150
[B]"ou said Captain Atom can destroy Hulk molecules, I posted a scan of Hulk resisting said attack. You said Captain Atom could shrink Hulk, I posted a scan of Hulk overpowering said attack. You said Captain Atom could freeze time, I posted a scan of Hulk powering through time stop.You kept going on and on and on which lead to me getting bored because your arguments were lame and you hid behind the word liar because you didn't have a defense. So I'm trying to figure out why I would debate against you with anything concerning Hulk when you know little of the character. Just know that Hulk stomps all."
Lol, you mean you compared an "aging ray" to a reality warper, I showed you multiple scans of cap atom being able to completely alter the atoms of something along with him absorbing countless copies of himself from other universes. YOU DID NOTHING TO COUNTER MY SPEED FEATS AND TIME MANIPULATION FEATS. You lost that debate.
Hulk has never withstood reality warping on the lvl of captain atom, i furthered my points with countless feat and you ignored every single one of them and DID NOTHING TO TELL ME HOW THE HULK COULD BEAT HIM.
"Hulk can counter his speed by punching Atom in the face." this is what you said when you did not have an argument to counter my speed feats, you ignored my points and could not give me any answer on how the hulk can beat him.
Hulk has never and cannot stop from his atoms being altered completely, you have no answers for the points i made so you simply ignored them, YOU STILL NEVER ANSWERED HOW HULK CAN DO ANYTHING TO CAPTAIN ATOM.
I SEE YOU ARE TRYING TO RUN AWAY FROM DEBATING HULK VS SUPERMAN....you are hilarious
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Clearly stated on panel that he stopped time and Hulk kept moving. Not my fault you ignored it. He used an aging attack AFTER the time stop didn't work. Read the scans I give you.
Captain Atom didn't warp reality and even if he did, Hulk has powered through that.
You showed me Atom FLYING through space at the speed of light...that isn't combat speed my friend. Vulcan has also flown through space at FTL speeds but was still unable to react to a bullet. Space flight doesn't equal combat speed. There's a difference buddy.
Not discussing Captain Atom or Superman vs Hulk in this thread. Stop trolling because you've debated against your superior.
Originally posted by thingy150Show me superman reacting to or moving fast with a number attached to his speed. Show me any scan saying that superman is moving atleast 3 times faster than light, no guessing, no point a to b guessing, give me numbers so that the reader knows how fast hes moving. Gladiator has numbers attached to his feats, superman does not and any number said around superman shows he cannot compete like flash borrowing speed to reach lightspeed and superman was a statue or superman saying he cannot outrace light because light is faster than him but he can reach light speed but it takes him time to reach it.
Lol, your talking to me like i saw the scans and am debating against them, carver gave one of the vaguest descriptions ever and that is what i had to work with. If this is true then it is a game changer, i am however going to need you to provide scans.(edit) also gladiator seeing them as blurs is not impressive, he has close to zero reaction time feats.
Originally posted by carver9
Clearly stated on panel that he stopped time and Hulk kept moving. Not my fault you ignored it. He used an aging attack AFTER the time stop didn't work. Read the scans I give you.Captain Atom didn't warp reality and even if he did, Hulk has powered through that.
You showed me Atom FLYING through space at the speed of light...that isn't combat speed my friend. Vulcan has also flown through space at FTL speeds but was still unable to react to a bullet. Space flight doesn't equal combat speed. There's a difference buddy.
Not discussing Captain Atom or Superman vs Hulk in this thread. Stop trolling because you've debated against your superior.
Lol i has multiple cap speed feats other than space, like when he was moving while bullets were stuck in place and he also caught the flash(which was partially time manipulation)
"Clearly stated on panel that he stopped time and Hulk kept moving. " you did not show any scan that had this on panel and if you did pull it up right now.
Captain atom is too fast, HULK HAS NO TOOLS TO HURT HIM AND YOU HAVE STILL YET TO PROVE HULK CAN DO ANYTHING TO HURT ATOM. I showed you multiple feats of captain atom reality warping.
here are a few.
He has brought back people from the dead along with creating completely human clones of himself, he has given people powers, he traveled through the multiverse and absorbed multiple versions of himself, he altered the molecules of multiple life forms. Atom can travel through time so basically he could just go kill banner before he was ever the hulk. You did nothing to debate my points you just ignored them.
HOW DOES HULK WIN, YOU CONTINUE TO DODGE THIS QUESTION...
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Originally posted by JBL
Show me superman reacting to or moving fast with a number attached to his speed. Show me any scan saying that superman is moving atleast 3 times faster than light, no guessing, no point a to b guessing, give me numbers so that the reader knows how fast hes moving. Gladiator has numbers attached to his feats, superman does not and any number said around superman shows he cannot compete like flash borrowing speed to reach lightspeed and superman was a statue or superman saying he cannot outrace light because light is faster than him but he can reach light speed but it takes him time to reach it.
Gladiator has a number attached to his speed feats, he does not have any reaction feats which would be what he needs to see them moving.....your argument is moot because reaction and speed are not the same thing.
Originally posted by thingy150Gladiator blitzed a machine at near light speed from less that 10 feet away and reacted to nano-second attacks from hyperion. His perception was fast enough to notice reed and the others stealing weapons at faster than light speed. He reacted to all of this whereas when flash and zoom fought at just light speed, superman was frozen and did not know what the hell was going on. Reed would laugh at superman before he kills him with one month prep. Just ask galactus what reed can do, now put superman up against galactus and see what would happen, fan based wants withholding.
Gladiator has a number attached to his speed feats, he does not have any reaction feats which would be what he needs to see them moving.....your argument is moot because reaction and speed are not the same thing.
Originally posted by JBL
Gladiator blitzed a machine at near light speed from less that 10 feet away and reacted to nano-second attacks from hyperion. His perception was fast enough to notice reed and the others stealing weapons at faster than light speed. He reacted to all of this whereas when flash and zoom fought at just light speed, superman was frozen and did not know what the hell was going on. Reed would laugh at superman before he kills him with one month prep. Just ask galactus what reed can do, now put superman up against galactus and see what would happen, fan based wants withholding.
Nothing in your post shows that gladiator has reaction time on par with superman, he simply lacks the feats so don't try and say he does. I have not been arguing in favor of superman im just saying that the feat you posted shows nothing unless you actually show the feat. I dont know specifically how fast the were going and you saying gladiator saw them as a blur does not do anything to further the fear itself.
Just upload the scans.
Originally posted by JBLare you trolling? What are you talking about? Scans please.
Reed has increased his speed to the point that gladiator had to go beyond light speed just to engage them. Reed with prep would destroy superman. 😉
Superman is far faster than Gladiator by feats. And yes Superman's speed feats are quantifiable by a number.
Originally posted by carver9this is a forum fight. In a forum, Superman knows how dangerous reed is with prep; so Superman instantly stops time the moment the bell rings. Reed doesn't get to make an action.
😂You're saying Superman can beat a guy (whos had less prep than a month) that takes out Galactus and Celestial with prep. This is the funniest thing i have read in the history of KMC. Keep it going champ. Next thread, Superman vs Galactus, prep battle.
Originally posted by h1a8No he is not faster by feats that TELLS YOU how fast they are going. I tell you what,by feats,show me superman going just 5 times light speed with a number thats clear as day. You know,like ALL the other speedsters have. No guessing please and no excuses.
are you trolling? What are you talking about? Scans please.Superman is far faster than Gladiator by feats. And yes Superman's speed feats are quantifiable by a number.
Originally posted by JBL
No he is not faster by feats that TELLS YOU how fast they are going. I tell you what,by feats,show me superman going just 5 times light speed with a number thats clear as day. You know,like ALL the other speedsters have. No guessing please and no excuses.
Dont mean to intrude but you have still yet to show feats of anything so why are you asking like you already provided them yourself...and at 1st you said faster than light now you are saying its 5 times faster, pretty sure you just made up a random number on the spot.