Originally posted by Emo?
Because we don't believe what atheists do 😖 we believe there is a god and are loyal to our god. It's easy for atheists because they have nobody to be loyal to!
But I'm not an atheist. I'm a Christian and I have from time to time wondered about it. That doesnt mean I'm not a "true Christian" and it doesnt mean I'm unsure of my beleifs. I'm just an open minded Christian and I wonder about things of that nature sometimes.
Originally posted by Emo?
Because we don't believe what atheists do 😖 we believe there is a god and are loyal to our god. It's easy for atheists because they have nobody to be loyal to!
Did you just honestly say that since atheists don't believe in a god, they have no one or nothing to be loyal to?
And since when does believing in god equal being right?
Originally posted by ThePittman
Sticking up for your religion and your beliefs is fine, but “go forth and multiply” and “bring others into the flock” means that you must go out and preach your beliefs. If someone comes to you and asked for information, that is one thing but saying that I’m evil or that I’m wrong and preaching to me is not. Many religions will send out missionaries and try to convert other people, they didn’t ask for it, yes they can not listen but why should they have to make that choice.Also this really should be in the Religion forum.
Yeah, but it's our point of view, so we are allowed to spread it in whatever we want, just like atheists go to the religion forums and take the mic of christianity, but we aren't even taking the mic.
And Talking to people isn't forcing.
Originally posted by BlackSunshine
But I'm not an atheist. I'm a Christian and I have from time to time wondered about it. That doesnt mean I'm not a "true Christian" and it doesnt mean I'm unsure of my beleifs. I'm just an open minded Christian and I wonder about things of that nature sometimes.
Do you ever think about why we are what we are? I mean, why we are able to think while other animals aren't? Or about how complex our bodies really are?
Originally posted by BlackSunshine
But I'm not an atheist. I'm a Christian and I have from time to time wondered about it. That doesnt mean I'm not a "true Christian" and it doesnt mean I'm unsure of my beleifs. I'm just an open minded Christian and I wonder about things of that nature sometimes.
You can wonder about it, any christian could, but some christians deeply believe in god.
Originally posted by Lana
Did you just honestly say that since atheists don't believe in a god, they have no one or nothing to be loyal to?And since when does believing in god equal being right?
[/QUOTELet me see, atheists don't think they have to be loyal to anything, so they could be open minded as much as they want.
Christians believe in god, meaning they should be loyal to him, they don't have to be, but they should be. They could think other things possible, but would that really be faithful to god? It clearly depends on how much you believe in him.[QUOTE=7737924]Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Psst, the g in God's capitalized😐
ooops, didn't notice that one! lol
Originally posted by Emo?Going door to door, or to villages is forcing your beliefs on someone, it is not twisting there are but still the same.
Yeah, but it's our point of view, so we are allowed to spread it in whatever we want, just like atheists go to the religion forums and take the mic of christianity, but we aren't even taking the mic.And Talking to people isn't forcing.
As for the religion forum, not all but most of the times it are questions that we have and would like answers too or posting what are problems are and would like them answered. If you post in the forum you should expect to have people respond to it, this is a public forum after all and that is not what I’m talking about. If you wish to make you views here then by all means do so, if you wish to write books then do so, if you wish to make movies then do so but imposing your views over others is wrong.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixI think about that stuff all the time, an animal’s body is just as complex as any human and in some ways even more. Also animals can think, feel and learn much the way we do, they just didn’t have to grow more intelligent to survive.
Do you ever think about why we are what we are? I mean, why we are able to think while other animals aren't? Or about how complex our bodies really are?
Originally posted by ThePittman
We are loyal to family, the human race and rights of others, we don’t need some other “higher power”.
Murder, rape, and theft happens, so clearly we do need a higher power.
Originally posted by ThePittman
Going door to door, or to villages is forcing your beliefs on someone, it is not twisting there are but still the same.As for the religion forum, not all but most of the times it are questions that we have and would like answers too or posting what are problems are and would like them answered. If you post in the forum you should expect to have people respond to it, this is a public forum after all and that is not what I’m talking about. If you wish to make you views here then by all means do so, if you wish to write books then do so, if you wish to make movies then do so but imposing your views over others is wrong.
Then telling me what you just said is unfair. But i don't think it is because it's your point of view.
I'm not forcing, i'm sticking up and converting, at the same time. And i'm allowed to stick up for my religion.
Originally posted by ThePittman
I think about that stuff all the time, an animal’s body is just as complex as any human and in some ways even more. Also animals can think, feel and learn much the way we do, they just didn’t have to grow more intelligent to survive.
I agree, i do think animals think, but not as good as us, because they wasn't endowed with what we have.
And i don't think he ment animals weren't complex, he ment all creatures being so complex.
Originally posted by ThePittman
I think about that stuff all the time, an animal’s body is just as complex as any human and in some ways even more. Also animals can think, feel and learn much the way we do, they just didn’t have to grow more intelligent to survive.
No, animals don't think, at least not to the degree that we can, or else we humans wouldn't be the dominant species on earth.
Originally posted by Emo?
I agree, i do think animals think, but not as good as us, because they wasn't endowed with what we have.And i don't think he ment animals weren't complex, he ment all creatures being so complex.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixAnimals do think, hell some use tools. Do they need to do math or to think of abstract ideas, no because they don’t need to. They process information, learn and respond to the environment. They are only as smart as they need to be because they have advantages that humans do not have, we can’t run as fast, react as quick, our senses are not as sharp and don’t have thick skin or fur to deal with the environment.
No, animals don't think, at least not to the degree that we can, or else we humans wouldn't be the dominant species on earth.
By both of your statements saying that they don’t think, well not as good as us means that they do think and goes back to my above statement.
Originally posted by BlackSunshine
What I don't understand about certain "Christians" is that they think everything they're saying is right and that it can't be any other way. What if we, as Christians, are wrong? What if the non-beleivers, Atheists, are right? Have any of you opened your mind once and ever thought about that??
yes and this is what I got
I will live my life by the way I believe God wants me too. I am happy believing in God and when I die if I find out God exists and I lived my life according to his will I have nothing to worry about. And if I find there is no God, I didn't loose anything from it. I rather live believing in him and then find out he doesn't exist and loose nothing, then to not believe and die and find out he does exist and loose everything.
Originally posted by ThePittman
By both of your statements saying that they don’t think, well not as good as us means that they do think and goes back to my above statement.
But really though, it isn't BECAUSE they run so fast, react well and have good senses. It's because they were made that way. A human would survive perfect in britain without being smart, because i could beat up a cat or a wolf anyday! not like i would want to though..
Originally posted by Emo?
If that makes all the difference.
are you allowed to kill aswell? because the bible says you can't do that, atheism doesn't say you can't kill though does it? 😕 .
Yeah, I am allowed to kill....morally. Why? Not because I am atheist though, but because I reject or deny absolute morals, which is what I am referring to obviously. My own morals as well as the law do not permit me to kill.
Originally posted by Raven GuardiaYet you do loose something, one is free will to live your life the by the rules of someone else and believing in something that maybe false. Two is that what is to say that this religion is correct and that another is right and that god doesn’t like your god.
yes and this is what I gotI will live my life by the way I believe God wants me too. I am happy believing in God and when I die if I find out God exists and I lived my life according to his will I have nothing to worry about. And if I find there is no God, I didn't loose anything from it. I rather live believing in him and then find out he doesn't exist and loose nothing, then to not believe and die and find out he does exist and loose everything.
Originally posted by Emo?If you tried to live in the woods and kill a cat or a dog without the use of any tools you would starve. You have not seen what a domestic feral cat can do to a human, much less a wild one. Without the use of tools and our power to create them humans would have died off long ago.
😕 Yeah, i was agreeing with you 😖 i never said i didn't agree, lolBut really though, it isn't BECAUSE they run so fast, react well and have good senses. It's because they were made that way. A human would survive perfect in britain without being smart, because i could beat up a cat or a wolf anyday! not like i would want to though..
Originally posted by Emo?I still have no clue as to what you are trying to say, hell I can't even guess at it.
Life doesn't have to survive, really, it isn't like they're there for a reason is it? 🙄