Originally posted by Blue nocturne
We are not debating PC supes and goku can Instant transmission to another planet, also does supes vibration work on huge explosions if so why doesn't he always use it, I've only seen him vibrate against dooms day. by the way 1 million nukes isn't 833 planets.
Well IT is BRF of yourseld so Goku loses if he IT.
The vibration thing is on panel and he doesn't always use it due to PIS.
I mean if Superman was written to full potential with bloodlust on and no PIS, he wouldn't have many challenges and the comics would suck. The same could be said about many characters. I mean if Thanos didn't have mental problems, well u know.
Another thing is that Goku always has to freaken power up in order to use powerful attacks.
People always bring up SSJ4 Goku so why not PC Supes?
Many people claim that Goku at his greatest is above any incarnation of Supes, but that is not correct. The greatest incarnation of Supes, no matter how brief it was, is greater than Goku's.
Supes has been around so long he has tons of feats to stop on Goku.
Well for some people its rather hard to think logically and so therefore they choose Goku over Superman based on which character they like more instead of good logic like:
Originally posted by Superman_045
Lol, SSJ4 Goku struggles with buildings yet Superman lifts planets....stupidty.
Its not like Supeman is not trying, but when he is sundipped Superman is awsome.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
We are not debating PC supes and goku can Instant transmission to another planet, also does supes vibration work on huge explosions if so why doesn't he always use it, I've only seen him vibrate against dooms day. by the way 1 million nukes isn't 833 planets.
Goku can't IT to another planet unless he lock onto someones KI, knows them, and has been on the planet before; But he can't since he doesn't know anyone from another planet, this is a battle setup in a neutral universe, so Goku can't IT to king kai's planet or any other DBZ planet because they're not in Superman's universe (Earth, the Moon, and other real planets he can, but he has to know the person's KI to teleport there).
And Superman has vibrated plenty of times, go look at his respect thread. 🙂
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
❌ This has been done to death , at ssj1 goku's kili ranks at 15 million it takes 18,000 kili to destroy a planet by drilling it's core, 15 million divided by 18,000 equals 833.3, He could destroy a planet 833 times over,post evidence superman could survive a blast that could destroy a planet 833 times over and supes wins.
First off Goku can't or any other DBZ characters doesn't come close to blowing up the planet 833 times, I don't know where you got this from. DBZ characters even at the end of the series, were only capable of making craters and moutain destroy destruction with there blasts, not planet destroying.
Superman has survived being in a double black hole and supernova, can ssj3/4 Goku survive that? Has any body in DBZ ever shown to be able to survive things like that? Nope. 🙂
Originally posted by dvampire
First off Goku can't or any other DBZ characters doesn't come close to blowing up the planet 833 times, I don't know where you got this from. DBZ characters even at the end of the series, were only capable of making craters and moutain destroy destruction with there blasts, not planet destroying.Superman has survived being in a double black hole and supernova, can ssj3/4 Goku survive that? Has any body in DBZ ever shown to be able to survive things like that? Nope. 🙂
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Originally posted by dvampire
First off Goku can't or any other DBZ characters doesn't come close to blowing up the planet 833 times, I don't know where you got this from. DBZ characters even at the end of the series, were only capable of making craters and moutain destroy destruction with there blasts, not planet destroying.
Yes they do so many people have pointed this out, read daizenshuu before you say what he can't do.
Originally posted by dvampire
Superman has survived being in a double black hole and supernova, can ssj3/4 Goku survive that? Has any body in DBZ ever shown to be able to survive things like that? Nope. 🙂
What does a double black hole have to do with endurance, the key to surviving a black hole is to move faster then light which superman can do.
Originally posted by bean_machineThe vibration thing is on panel and he doesn't always use it due to PIS.
Feats that suffer from PIS are exempt from debates.
Originally posted by bean_machine
I mean if Superman was written to full potential with bloodlust on and no PIS, he wouldn't have many challenges and the comics would suck. The same could be said about many characters. I mean if Thanos didn't have mental problems, well u know.
Dc always pulls out some stupid plot device on behalf of superman.
Originally posted by bean_machine
People always bring up SSJ4 Goku so why not PC Supes
doesn't matter ssj4 is not canon.
Originally posted by bean_machine
Many people claim that Goku at his greatest is above any incarnation of Supes.
Those people are fanboys.
sorry for the double post.
people please read page 77 in this debate, i stated mathematically how strong goku is, and the supporters for supes totally shot me down, ITS HOPELESS THIS ARGUEMENT IS GOING AROUND IN A CIRCLE! its the same topic over and over again when it comes to gokus speed/strenght, a suporter for supes will come and throw it in the garbage with facts, than they back it up with scans from supes comics, give it up and stop making dbz fans look like retards please im begging you
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
What does a double black hole have to do with endurance, the key to surviving a black hole is to move faster then light which superman can do.
No. Superman can go into a black hole and come back out like nothing has happened.
Vibrating intangible is not freaking PIS. He picked it up from Flash who can do it due to his speed. Supes has great enough speed to duplicate the trick Flash can do. It has been proven time after time that Superman can exceed the speed of light, so he is capable of intangibility at will.
I don't mean its PIS that he can do it, but because of PIS he doesn't the majority of the time.
Nobody takes martial arts into account. Karate Kid has beat Superboy, and his strength is NOTHING compared to Superboy's. Goku is the greatest martial artist in his universe, as is KK in his. And to top it off. Goku has energy blasts capable of destroying planets, he can fly, AND has IT. Now, I'm not saying he'll IT to another planet, but he'll IT around Superman. And IT is faster than the speed of light. I highly doubt Superman can fight at the speed of light.
Honsetly, nobody wants this thread here. Not even Lana, so let it die. Like Hoshi said, if you want to debate with him, then E-mail him.
Anybody who thinks Goku would beat Superman, have fun. 😉 Check the very first post. :
Originally posted by batdude123
Anybody who thinks Goku would beat Superman, have fun 😉 :
Wooohooo, oh yeah, wooohooo.
Like I said Supes win this hands down.
Goku goes and cries because no amount of training will allow him to become greater than Superman.
If both had 1,000 years to become better who would come on top?
Well Superman, he'll just take a 1,000 year nap in the sun, while Goku works his ass off. Then Superman just eats him as a snack after a long nap.
Originally posted by bean_machine
Wooohooo, oh yeah, wooohooo.Like I said Supes win this hands down.
Goku goes and cries because no amount of training will allow him to become greater than Superman.
If both had 1,000 years to become better who would come on top?
Well Superman, he'll just take a 1,000 year nap in the sun, while Goku works his ass off. Then Superman just eats him as a snack after a long nap.
Exactly. ✅
Originally posted by bean_machine
Wooohooo, oh yeah, wooohooo.Like I said Supes win this hands down.
Goku goes and cries because no amount of training will allow him to become greater than Superman.
If both had 1,000 years to become better who would come on top?
Well Superman, he'll just take a 1,000 year nap in the sun, while Goku works his ass off. Then Superman just eats him as a snack after a long nap.
I change my mind superman would win, the way he's written superman would pull out some new power and stomp him.