Originally posted by CorderaMitchellWell I just wondered what you meant when you refered to illogical feats . . .
Just for the record, I haven't said who'll win.
Superman and Goku are both just as fictional, both are aliens with alien physiology.
Neither's limits have ever really been described. So we don't know what is beyond thier limits.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Well I just wondered what you meant when you refered to illogical feats . . .Superman and Goku are both just as fictional, both are aliens with alien physiology.
Neither's limits have ever really been described. So we don't know what is beyond thier limits.
It doesnt matter, when debating two characters, all you have to go by is the feats they've performed
Supermans top feats include tugging planets, chucking several thousand ton chunks of debri into the sun from earth the same way I toss a crumpled up piece of paper into a trash can, etc. Goku, has never shown to be anywhere near supermans strength, speed, or durability
I know a bunch of people are blabbing about goku destroying a planet, and he can, but so? supermans survive energy beams capable of destroying solar systems, and his strength alone was used to power a machine that in size dwarfed our solar system, Goku is outclassed, period.
Originally posted by Che$t Rockwell
It doesnt matter, when debating two characters, all you have to go by is the feats they've performedSupermans top feats include tugging planets, chucking several thousand ton chunks of debri into the sun from earth the same way I toss a crumpled up piece of paper into a trash can, etc. Goku, has never shown to be anywhere near supermans strength, speed, or durability
I know a bunch of people are blabbing about goku destroying a planet, and he can, but so? supermans survive energy beams capable of destroying solar systems, and his strength alone was used to power a machine that in size dwarfed our solar system, Goku is outclassed, period.
They're too inconsistant to argue, thats why they shouldn't be brought up, they're stupid feat wars.
I can prove it, easily, come at me with your reasons why Goku is stronger, ill debunk each and every one of them, with ease
and no, DBZ is usually consistent, with a few inconsistencies, like ALL comics/anime etc. They can easily be debated and feats compared, Goku cant beat superman without kryptonite
Originally posted by Che$t Rockwell
I can prove it, easily, come at me with your reasons why Goku is stronger, ill debunk each and every one of them, with easeand no, DBZ is usually consistent, with a few inconsistencies, like ALL comics/anime etc. They can easily be debated and feats compared, Goku cant beat superman without kryptonite
Its not an "excuse" I've already argued it.
Its that dumbasses come in and don't know anything about the characters, which make it annoying.
The universes aren't even the same, some blow up planets by the core, others don't.
There's nothing you can do about it, deal with it.
Who said goku would win?
I sure didn't bud, you are assuming things now, calm down, if you are so good, come to the comic forums. They talk about this shit all the time, you wouldn't be debunking me.
As a newb here you don't understand how these go.
Goku defeats galaxies, blah blah blah.
Its nothing but a stupid feat war, no solid fact at all.
Few minor inconsistancies. Tell that to GT.
Understood.
I know that, but you do understand that there is no solid, backbone for these characters, especially in DBZ, as in sf, its a feat war.
He did this in this comic, but not in this comic, ever heard of wolverine?
I'm not trying to be harsh, as I agree with you, but you must understand that people don't understand shit about DBZ. On top of that, there are even fake episodes and such.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Understood.
I know that, but you do understand that there is no solid, backbone for these characters, especially in DBZ, as in sf, its a feat war.He did this in this comic, but not in this comic, ever heard of wolverine?
I'm not trying to be harsh, as I agree with you, but you must understand that people don't understand shit about DBZ. On top of that, there are even fake episodes and such.
And I've seen Gokus max feats, so he loses. 🙂
Goku would for obvious reasons. Goku could destroy the universe if he wanted. That covers power. He can zanzoken anywhere. That covers speed. He can draw power from other organisms. Also if you didn't remember Pan could fly around the world in 2 minutes when she was 4 years old. Goku is thousands of times stronger than her. And the only reason superman has powers is because of the yellow sun of earth.
Originally posted by theobvious
Goku would for obvious reasons. Goku could destroy the universe if he wanted. That covers power. He can zanzoken anywhere. That covers speed. He can draw power from other organisms. Also if you didn't remember Pan could fly around the world in 2 minutes when she was 4 years old. Goku is thousands of times stronger than her. And the only reason superman has powers is because of the yellow sun of earth.
SSJ3/4 could never destroy the universe, Pan can't travel fly around the in 2 minutes because ssj4 Goku couldn't even out race Omega Shinrons energy blasts, and ssj4 Goku struggled pushing a building. Supes is faster, stronger, more durable, and has way better stamina. 🙂
Damn, this grew while I was away...
Firstly... DBZ is indeed inconsistant. How do you explain some energy blasts, which are logically millions of times stronger than blasts needed to destroy the Earth, that miss their targets and hit the Earth, yet do nothing? Goku can punch and hurt guys that take planet destroying attacks, yet his lifting power isn't all that impressive.
Superman has hit top speeds of: Mach 5, Mach 50, Mach 1000, 2000 mps, 180,000 mps, and many many times the speed of light. And yet his Doomsday brawl wasn't close to lightspeed. Most of his fights aren't. Superman knows the rudiments of fighting, but is far from a martial artist. His fighting style is punch, then punch again. All of Goku's powers come from his martial arts training. (aside from the transformations) Superman needs Wonderwoman and Martian Manhunter to move the moon, yet pushes Warworld and powers the Mageddon thing.
I still think that if you think about how powerful the blasts in DBZ should be, Goku's durability should be insane amounts above Superman's, but there's no real consistancy there.
Overall, a winner is really unpickable. Both fluctuate way the hell too much. But SS still beats the crap out of Superman. He has better feats in EVERYTHING but physical strength, and retains the best tactical advantage one could ask for against Superman.