I doubt superman would be able to get close to Goku. As you remember when one of the humans tried to attack Cell but he was soo powerful his powerfiled was stopping him from even getting close.
DBZ characters can destroy plantes with ease. Even early on in DBZ piccolo blows up the moon and Goku is way more powerful than piccolo.
Doomsday, Darksied, Imperiex
I checked them out and they could easily be stopped by Goku.
Originally posted by Zen2nd
I doubt superman would be able to get close to Goku. As you remember when one of the humans tried to attack Cell but he was soo powerful his powerfiled was stopping him from even getting close.DBZ characters can destroy plantes with ease. Even early on in DBZ piccolo blows up the moon and Goku is way more powerful than piccolo.
I checked them out and they could easily be stopped by Goku.
one omega zap from Darksied and it's bye bye Goku , he won't be able to dodge or out run it follows you around corner and stuff..but don't worry we'll just wish him back...I already have 3 of the dragon balls.
Originally posted by Mainstream
one omega zap from Darksied and it's bye bye Goku , he won't be able to dodge or out run it follows you around corner and stuff..but don't worry we'll just wish him back...I already have 3 of the dragon balls.
The Omega effect in recent sttories has been blocked by
1 Supermans chest
2 Wonnder Womans braclets
3 A teleporter[Supergirl ran in front of the beam and it seemed to hit her.Later in a contrived bit of Bad writing Batman apprently teleported her out of the way.Where the Omega Effect wnt was never explained]
Poor darksied has been slowly turned into a joke villian over recent years.Its pretty saddening
Originally posted by Zen2nd
I doubt superman would be able to get close to Goku. As you remember when one of the humans tried to attack Cell but he was soo powerful his powerfiled was stopping him from even getting close.DBZ characters can destroy plantes with ease. Even early on in DBZ piccolo blows up the moon and Goku is way more powerful than piccolo.
I checked them out and they could easily be stopped by Goku.
ssj4 Goku has no chance against Darkseid. This guy was fighting Superman near the sun where Supes (who already lifting and pushing planets) got a big boost in power, and Darksied still was going toe to toe with him. One Omega Effect will easily end the fight. And it's pretty much overkill against Imperiex (a guy thats on Galactus level), nobody in DBZ/GT stands a chance aginst him. And Doomsday will break ssj4 or 3 body in halve. 🙂
Superman can't actually lift planets. He can push small ones through space, but that's pretty much it. He's a lot weaker now than he used to be.
Imperiex would beat Goku, but he would also beat Superman. Superman had to use Kismet's power to beat him.
And I severely doubt if the Omega Beams would affect Goku, since he can pretty easily take blasts meant to destroy planets. Also, Superman can just straight up beat Darkseid in a fight. Being near the sun must have just been an added bonus.
Oh, and Thanos would beat the crap out of Darkseid. Don't even compare em.
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Goku does have the ability to move so fast that you just can't see him
Supe is way faster.
Superman #13: Flew around the equator in a matter of seconds, indicating a speed of well over 1, 000, 000 mph, or roughly 1350 times the speed of sound.
Man of steel #110: Standing in one spot, Superman used his Superspeed to vibrate his body invisible.
Superman #175: Superman learned a speed trick from the Flash, Superman used his super speed to vibrate his body intangible, Thus allowing Doomsday's punches and firebreath to pass harmlessly through him. Head to Superman vs. Thor thread to see the pic.
Return of Superman: Superman used his speed to vibrate his arm so fast, it shattered Cyborg's body into alot of pieces.
After racing the Man of Steel, Impule stated that Superman travels at 99% the speed of light.
War of Gods #4: Superman out raced an energy beam to its target. In JLA: Heavens Ladder, it is staed that Superman can race a photon to its target.
Lex 2000 special: Superman made the trip from Earth to Saturn in well under 4 minutes. By comparison, light takes about 19 minutes to make this trip.
In JLA #51, Superman apparently made the trip from Saturn to Earth in a matter of seconds.
In Superman #153, a trip from Saturn to the sun (27 light minutes) and back agian (for a total of 54 light mintues) was completed in mere moments by the Superman.
Supes is way faster than any DBZ/GT character is. 🙂
Originally posted by Dizzle
Superman can't actually lift planets. He can push small ones through space, but that's pretty much it. He's a lot weaker now than he used to be.Imperiex would beat Goku, but he would also beat Superman. Superman had to use Kismet's power to beat him.
And I severely doubt if the Omega Beams would affect Goku, since he can pretty easily take blasts meant to destroy planets. Also, Superman can just straight up beat Darkseid in a fight. Being near the sun must have just been an added bonus.
Oh, and Thanos would beat the crap out of Darkseid. Don't even compare em.
In Superman #30, Superman grabbed, easily broke the forward movement of, and easily threw in the opposite direction, a space ship the size of a small moon.
Superman also push the force of the planet that was going at light speed (War World).
Imperiex whould beat Supes and Goku, but Supes was atleast capable of hanging with him before he went at full power. And I think the Omega Beams whould do alot of damage ssj4 Goku.
As for Thanos vs. Darkseid, I like both but lately Thanos has been getting alot of love with writers. 🙂
An Imperiex probe gave Supes a lot of trouble. Imperiex Prime would incinerate him, easily. It DID incinerate Doomsday, who at the time did much better against the probes than Supes did. Superman would lose to Imperiex Prime with one shot.
Those speed feats are kinda shoddy, as they list Superman at many different speeds. The Flash is ALWAYS portrayed as faster than Superman, yet he can only run at 99% the speed of light without time jumping. Yet Superman can move thousands of times the speed of light? I doubt. He made the Earth-Saturn trip twice, one maybe one hundred times faster than the other. It's all inconsistant. You forgot to mention the debate that went on the Superman/Thor thread about whether Superman was actually vibrating through DD's punches. It can pretty easily be shown as an after-image effect in the dodges.
As to the strength, you have a moon sized object and Pluto sized object (WarWorld) which backs my "pushes small planets" thing.
Oh, you forgot to mention the scans of Superman feeling pain upon hitting Mach 50. There's also one where Superman is racing the Flash, and says himself that he is going 2000 miles per hour. Fast, but not THAT fast. Goku is at least approaching light speed, people at low power levels in DBZ were able to move fast enough to create after-image illusions.
Originally posted by Dizzle
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Oh, you forgot to mention the scans of Superman feeling pain upon hitting Mach 50. There's also one where Superman is racing the Flash, and says himself that he is going 2000 miles per hour. Fast, but not THAT fast. Goku is at least approaching light speed, people at low power levels in DBZ were able to move fast enough to create after-image illusions. [/B]
Thats actually one example ive wanted to use before.Ive read the comic but couldnt remembner the exact speed or even issue number.IIRC Sups was doing about 2200 going all out Sups then starts talking to the Flash about the heroes should work and train together more then Flash shows off his "In 2 places at once" trick
I think i should also again stress the incompatability factor.DBZ characters dont lift weight to show their power and Comic book characters dont take planet destroying attacks then need to grow 50X times stronger for the next opponent
Originally posted by Dizzle
An Imperiex probe gave Supes a lot of trouble. Imperiex Prime would incinerate him, easily. It DID incinerate Doomsday, who at the time did much better against the probes than Supes did. Superman would lose to Imperiex Prime with one shot.Those speed feats are kinda shoddy, as they list Superman at many different speeds. The Flash is ALWAYS portrayed as faster than Superman, yet he can only run at 99% the speed of light without time jumping. Yet Superman can move thousands of times the speed of light? I doubt. He made the Earth-Saturn trip twice, one maybe one hundred times faster than the other. It's all inconsistant. You forgot to mention the debate that went on the Superman/Thor thread about whether Superman was actually vibrating through DD's punches. It can pretty easily be shown as an after-image effect in the dodges.
As to the strength, you have a moon sized object and Pluto sized object (WarWorld) which backs my "pushes small planets" thing.
Oh, you forgot to mention the scans of Superman feeling pain upon hitting Mach 50. There's also one where Superman is racing the Flash, and says himself that he is going 2000 miles per hour. Fast, but not THAT fast. Goku is at least approaching light speed, people at low power levels in DBZ were able to move fast enough to create after-image illusions.
He flies faster than he runs, and they were going at about 100 mach. And Supes was vibrating through the attacks, it's not very hard to see that.