Goku v. Superman

Originally posted by K3VIL
Calm down Supesboys.
Goku's physical strenght:
In SSJ 3 form, his blows were creating shockwaves on extradimensional level, that were shaking the earth, which is on another plane than that of Kaioshin planet, where Goku and Kid Buu were fighting.

Goku's ground speed and flight speed:
Goku just doesn't flight in space cause he can't breath in space, but his flight speed must not be underrated.He can move from a place to another on earth in seconds, he mostly uses instant transmission to avoid interferences and damage to the cities, cause he creates shockwaves when he move at supersonic speed.He's certainly above Mach 100 anyway.His foot speed is also great, he can outrun energy blasts like those of Freezer or Majin-Bu who travel very fast.
Gotenks, being born from fusion of Trunks and Goten, was flying in circles around earth several and several times in a matter of seconds.
Gotenks is the one which fought Evil Buu.Kid Buu was more powerful than Evil Buu, and Goku in SSJ3 form was matching his strenght and speed, so, do the math.Goku can move so fast he can vibrate intangible as Supes and Flash can do, he has done it before, and he can also create hologram of himself through moving fast.

Goku's durability:
Freezer once throwed him into the lava that was coming from the core of Namecc.Goku emerged from it unhurted, just more pissed off.
He also took a blast that was going to destroy earth in Dragon Ball GT, using his body as a shield, yes it knocked him nearly unconscious, but he was still alive.Tough in DBGT there are some plot holes, cause Goku already took planetary destroying blasts in DBZ.
If he was able to breath in space, he would certainly match Supes there.

Goku's energy manipulation and emission:
He can emit energy from any part of his body, and the highest magnitude of those energies emissions can destroy planets.

I am a huge Dbz fan but I'm not gunna lie to my self.... Superman is stronger and faster

Goku's physical strenght:
Goku at base form could only lift 40 tons, unless Goku SSj3 form multyplys his Base about millions/billions of times he is weaker....

Also Goku (while fighting) never "Truely" created Earthquakes, HE did make areas around him shatter, and break under his power but he didn't create quakes that could be felt around the planet, like you said...

Anyway Goku is weaker then Superman (Who made planets shatter under his power [According to those links and scans)]

Goku's ground speed and flight speed:
Goku is much much much much much much much slower then Lightspeed... Seeing as how a much strogner Buu (Super Buu 3) took minutes too fly from one side of the globe to the other.... and if you wanna count Gotenks' filler earth circling crap... then I would like you too know it took him 4 seconds to circle Earth 6 times... While Superman (not trying) could fly could fly 7 times around Earth in one second...

Also Instant Trasmission take him a couple of seconds of concentration before he can teleport...... Once he teleports he is faster then Superman... but in the time it takes him to teleport Superman could kill him

Goku's durability:
Goku falling into lava is filler, and if you wanna count filler and non-canon Dbz... Then I would like you to know that it was stated in Gt that SSj4 Goku could be killed by Nouva Shenron's fire (As hot as the Sun's surface)

[b]Goku's energy manipulation and emission:[b]
Acctually Goku power in Gt couldn't even destroy the sun, and in Dbz/Gt

Originally posted by K3VIL
Calm down Supesboys.
Goku's physical strenght:
In SSJ 3 form, his blows were creating shockwaves on extradimensional level, that were shaking the earth, which is on another plane than that of Kaioshin planet, where Goku and Kid Buu were fighting.

Goku's ground speed and flight speed:
Goku just doesn't flight in space cause he can't breath in space, but his flight speed must not be underrated.He can move from a place to another on earth in seconds, he mostly uses instant transmission to avoid interferences and damage to the cities, cause he creates shockwaves when he move at supersonic speed.He's certainly above Mach 100 anyway.His foot speed is also great, he can outrun energy blasts like those of Freezer or Majin-Bu who travel very fast.
Gotenks, being born from fusion of Trunks and Goten, was flying in circles around earth several and several times in a matter of seconds.
Gotenks is the one which fought Evil Buu.Kid Buu was more powerful than Evil Buu, and Goku in SSJ3 form was matching his strenght and speed, so, do the math.Goku can move so fast he can vibrate intangible as Supes and Flash can do, he has done it before, and he can also create hologram of himself through moving fast.

Goku's durability:
Freezer once throwed him into the lava that was coming from the core of Namecc.Goku emerged from it unhurted, just more pissed off.
He also took a blast that was going to destroy earth in Dragon Ball GT, using his body as a shield, yes it knocked him nearly unconscious, but he was still alive.Tough in DBGT there are some plot holes, cause Goku already took planetary destroying blasts in DBZ.
If he was able to breath in space, he would certainly match Supes there.

Goku's energy manipulation and emission:
He can emit energy from any part of his body, and the highest magnitude of those energies emissions can destroy planets.

This is exactly what they call "fanboy posts."

You present all the data for your side of the argument, but you NEVER put it in context of the fight.

You act as if this data will speak for itself. It doesn't. As the scans have shown, Supes high end feats outweigh these SIGNIFICANTLY. And like I said, take out PIS, Supes takes a sundip, and Goku cries to his dead mother.

It's also funny how the Superman supporters have presented visible evidence, while all the Goku supporters have done is "he did this" and "he did that" while putting their grandiose spin on it.

You're the one that should get some logic, "Gokesboy."

Owned.

Originally posted by Illustrious
This is exactly what they call "fanboy posts."

You present all the data for your side of the argument, but you NEVER put it in context of the fight.

You act as if this data will speak for itself. It doesn't. As the scans have shown, Supes high end feats outweigh these SIGNIFICANTLY. And like I said, take out PIS, Supes takes a sundip, and Goku cries to his dead mother.

It's also funny how the Superman supporters have presented visible evidence, while all the Goku supporters have done is "he did this" and "he did that" while putting their grandiose spin on it.

You're the one that should get some logic, "Gokesboy."

Ok, they convinced me, that Supes could beat Goku, but he can not beat SSJ3 or 4 Goku, and in a fusion he is no where beating a SSJ4 Gogeta.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Ok, they convinced me, that Supes could beat Goku, but he can not beat SSJ3 or 4 Goku, and in a fusion he is no where beating a SSJ4 Gogeta.

Superman would kill SSJ3 Goku, Goku cannot move faster then Speed of Light... Superman easy can, also Superman is pyshically strogner then Goku

Also (Little injured) SSJ4 had trouble with a building, at most when full power he can barly could lift a city block.... Superman (in his weaker days) could do things like that....

And SSJ4 Gogeta would have to be about a couple of millions of times stronger then SSJ4 Goku... which he isn't...

Superman >>>>>>>>>>> SSJ4 Gogeta

SSJ4 Goku is still not even in Superman's Leugue....

Originally posted by StaT1c
haha if this is an eating contest, then yes. Other than that, poor Goku is gonna get t-bagged by Supes.

🤨 .....supes fanboy..... Goku wins.... he can withstand over 100x earths gravity not to mention he can destroy anything in his path..ss4 goku could whipp mr supes ass with his ass.... so yea superman is pathetic..Fact...accept it...

What's up with all the superman fanboys lately...they really need to watch the buu and cell sagas...and stop basing their opinions on comics...one question can superman destroy the moon, a planet, a star? No i don't think so....can goku...YES! so don't try to say that superman is stronger when you don't have the proper facts to back anything up....kids...

Originally posted by TPinaPimp
Superman would kill SSJ3 Goku, Goku cannot move faster then Speed of Light... Superman easy can, also Superman is pyshically strogner then Goku

Also (Little injured) SSJ4 had trouble with a building, at most when full power he can barly could lift a city block.... Superman (in his weaker days) could do things like that....

And SSJ4 Gogeta would have to be about a couple of millions of times stronger then SSJ4 Goku... which he isn't...

Superman >>>>>>>>>>> SSJ4 Gogeta

SSJ4 Goku is still not even in Superman's Leugue....

SSJ4 Vegeta is Known to move faster than light, is more than godlike, and no hits could even break through his aru. i think you need to brush up on your dbz.

I don't think superman can withstand over 100x normal gravity, while in one episode vegeta was doing something like 300x normal gravity and goku is stronger vegeta so that does say something about goku...superman is far overrated....

That was when Goku was weak, and not even SSj yet. vegeta went of 300 and he wasn't SSj yet.

.....supes fanboy..... Goku wins.... he can withstand over 100x earths gravity not to mention he can destroy anything in his path..ss4 goku could whipp mr supes ass with his ass.... so yea superman is pathetic..Fact...accept it...

And Supes has withstood a blackhole. Do you need help calculating the gravity with that?

Fact? Substantiate. Now.

What's up with all the superman fanboys lately

You must not notice the result of the poll. Look up.

they really need to watch the buu and cell sagas...and stop basing their opinions on comics

Stop basing their opinions on comics? You're basing your opinion on a TV show, but we can't build our opinions on comics, which is the entire BASIS of the Superman franchise?

You clearly know nothing about Supes besides the fact he wears the "S," apparently.

one question can superman destroy the moon, a planet, a star? No i don't think so....can goku...YES!

When has Goku destroyed a star? Superman has thrown around planets before.

Hell, Naga Sadow can destroy stars with a wave of his hand, but he'd just get blitzed to hell by Superman anyway. You have no leg to stand on, stop spewing fanboy crap.

I don't think superman can withstand over 100x normal gravity, while in one episode vegeta was doing something like 300x normal gravity and goku is stronger vegeta so that does say something about goku...superman is far overrated....

Do the terms "black hole," and "singularity" strike a chord with you? Or is it that you still have no clue?

ROTFL
I just make a list of Goku's feats.Never sayed or claimed this will put him above Supes or give him the edge, my intention was just to give him some respect, he's not Superman, ok, but he's not certainly a mid level guy like Luke Cage or Thing, he'll give the Man of Steel a great fight.
And for the note, a fan of both of them, but reading topics written like fans are jerking off for Supes feats just make the discussion pathetic.
Against a SSJ3 or 4 Goku, this is a 50% and 50% fight.

That's why it's a fanboy post. Thanks for explaining it for me.

You gave NO context for his feats, but you say you want to give Goku "respect" even though he's clearly leading in the polls. And then you come up with this piece of crap and say he'll win 50% of the time.

Either place them in context, juxtapose his feats, or explain your reasoning with LOGIC, got it?

All the Goku fanboys have done is try to demean the feats Supes have ALREADY DONE or spout out Goku feats with no context as if that will actually sway any votes.

Surviving a Black Hole > 100 times or 300 times or whatever times earth gravity.

Throwing a planet > Charging up a spirit bomb for 5 episodes that may destroy the earth if it happens to hit the right spot.

Flying to the sun and back in 2 minutes > spending several seconds to go to the other side of the earth.

There, Supes is faster, stronger, and more durable, what leg do you guys have to stand on? Please come and throw more stuff that gets battered down.

Goku isn't a Silver Surfer, stop being daft.

You guys still on the black hole. SSJ3 Gotenks ripped a hole in dimensions by just yelling(no not with piccolo because they tried, then Gotenks said let me go ssj3 and he did it by himself.)

Originally posted by AdventChild
I don't think superman can withstand over 100x normal gravity, while in one episode vegeta was doing something like 300x normal gravity and goku is stronger vegeta so that does say something about goku...superman is far ove ....

Ummm.... Actually, I think the planet Superman was from had the gravity of a 100x earths gravity.... Don't quote me on this, but I think I remeber reading it in a Wizard magizine before...

And Supes has beaten a Herald of Galactus before, so what?

Originally posted by Mako Victim
Ummm.... Actually, I think the planet Superman was from had the gravity of a 100x earths gravity.... Don't quote me on this, but I think I remeber reading it in a Wizard magizine before...

Actually I doubt that, Krypton had a red sun.

Can Superman beat Majin Buu...hell no he can't.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Can Superman beat Majin Buu...hell no he can't.

Did Goku ever beat Majin Buu???

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Can Superman beat Majin Buu...hell no he can't.

Substantiate.

What proof do you have that he "hell no can't"?

"Flying to the sun and back in 2 minutes > spending several seconds to go to the other side of the earth."

so supes top speed is 4 x lightspeed???

lol don't give me that rubbish.. thats just batman riding supes nut sac...

Originally posted by Mako Victim
Did Goku ever beat Majin Buu???

✅ He said he could of killed buu while he was SSJ3 ( the fat buu) then he helled his own against kid buu. Veggitto beat the crap out of buu, with ease, but these guys say, even a fusion is garbage, and superman could win.