Goku v. Superman

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
"Flying to the sun and back in 2 minutes > spending several seconds to go to the other side of the earth."

so supes top speed is 4 x lightspeed???

lol don't give me that rubbish.. thats just batman riding supes nut sac...

4 times? Try a bit over 8.

And avalon has the scans. Don't be silly.

He said he could of killed buu while he was SSJ3 ( the fat buu) then he helled his own against kid buu. Veggitto beat the crap out of buu, with ease, but these guys say, even a fusion is garbage, and superman could win.

You didn't substantiate how Supes can't beat Buu.

Superman doesn't fight fast, Goku fights fast, if you have not notice. As for andriods hurting goku, well i see mettalo hurting supes, and he is slow as crap.

Supes doesn't fight fast? Some people will lynch you for that heresy.

And that still doesn't show how Supes couldn't beat Buu, even if it was true.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
✅ He said he could of killed buu while he was SSJ3 ( the fat buu) then he helled his own against kid buu. Veggitto beat the crap out of buu, with ease, but these guys say, even a fusion is garbage, and superman could win.

Okay.... Sense I've never really seen the Buu saga I'm just wondering one more thing.. When you say a "fusion" you Goku combinding his power with someone else right?? Well if that's the case then Goku would probably win...

But I'm sure if they brought in Vegeta to help Goku they'd bring in someone else to Superman like the Green Lantarn or something

Originally posted by Illustrious
Supes doesn't fight fast? Some people will lynch you for that heresy.

And that still doesn't show how Supes couldn't beat Buu, even if it was true.

Post pics of supes fighting fast rather than, a double hand blitz

Piccolo: Special beam cannon
raddiz, dodges it
Piccolo: he must be faster than the seed of light!!!!

and this is no where near ssj level, no where nearrr.

The special beam cannon is NOT the speed of light. That is hyperbole. Go look that word up. If it was the speed of light, the beam would have appeared to be near instantaneous. Have you ever -seen- with your own unaided eyes light traveling that slow? No. So please, learn to prove up.

Originally posted by Deus Ex
The special beam cannon is NOT the speed of light. That is hyperbole. Go look that word up. If it was the speed of light, the beam would have appeared to be near instantaneous. Have you ever -seen- with your own unaided eyes light traveling that slow? No. So please, learn to prove up.

1. thats what he SAID
2. if they put it accual speed, how the hell are you going to enjoy the show, if you don't see anything. Ok so I guess, in the manga, it doesnt move right , since it's a picture.

Man, this entire thread is riddled with DBZ fanboys. They're like "zOMG! Goku can eat beans and crap lightning! Never mind that Superman can literally play pool with planets; Goku MUST be better! My pride and fanboyism qualifications ride on it!".

Seriously...

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
1. thats what he SAID
2. if they put it accual speed, how the hell are you going to enjoy the show, if you don't see anything. Ok so I guess, in the manga, it doesnt move right , since it's a picture.

They also said that Goku could never overcome Vegeta. Is this immutable fact also?

Originally posted by Deus Ex
They also said that Goku could never overcome Vegeta. Is this immutable fact also?

they said ALOT of shit about Superman, so does that mean it.Superman can not fight fast, he could blitz, but not in any karate barage of punches and kicks. mettalo wouldn't of hit him, Supeman went back in time, superman moved the moon, Superman ate black holes. depedning on the writer, Supes is a God in oine, then garbage in the next. Thats why anime, is better, because it's one guy, and it doesn't change every 5 seconds. Goku could sense attacks, Superman gets hit by people that can't pick up a car, so he isn't that quick.

Originally posted by Deus Ex
Man, this entire thread is riddled with DBZ fanboys. They're like "zOMG! Goku can eat beans and crap lightning! Never mind that Superman can literally play pool with planets; Goku MUST be better! My pride and fanboyism qualifications ride on it!".

Seriously...

Superman Fanboys: Superman survived a black hole, and is faster than light, but mettalo tags him,Brainiac tags him, as well. Superman does not think that fast, he is not the flash.

Superman doesn't think that fast? I guess reading at ridiculous speeds doesn't qualify. Psssh.

in Fighting....not reading....

WTF? You mean you can be ridiculously fast at thinking in one instance, but the second a fight starts, Superman's IQ and thinking speed drops 50000 points, right?

Please.

Supes speed is what they compare pretty much every earthbound superhero in DC. Simply because they don't have a cartoon having him dodging the same 4 attacks every second doesn't mean he can't.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
they said ALOT of shit about Superman, so does that mean it.Superman can not fight fast, he could blitz, but not in any karate barage of punches and kicks. mettalo wouldn't of hit him, Supeman went back in time, superman moved the moon, Superman ate black holes. depedning on the writer, Supes is a God in oine, then garbage in the next. Thats why anime, is better, because it's one guy, and it doesn't change every 5 seconds. Goku could sense attacks, Superman gets hit by people that can't pick up a car, so he isn't that quick.

Superman supporters in this thread have given you irrefutable PROOF of his abilities, which are not subject to "omfg how cheap!'. It's there, it's proof. He can do it. By rational though, he would win. Goku supporters haven't shown us a damn thing, period. Just "omfg SSJYJJSYYLA 40.000.000.000. Gogetamaxusglutuis did the kamehameham and blew up a moon! He pwns lol zomg wtf bbq!!!"

And seriously, you think anime is better because it's one guy who doesn't change every five seconds? For one thing, anime in general doesn't fit that line, and two, Goku got his ass beat by everyone at least twice, and then suddenly gets up and pwns hardcore the next time, despite NOT moving any faster in combat the entire series. How do you explain this?

Not really, I do like comics better, but in terms of vs, people pick when Superman wa wriitem for one reason or another, when he does things, he shouldn't be doing, but they use it. I know Superman could beat goku before the Namek saga and maybe even a little after, but ssj then ssj2 and 3 and now 4 is godlike. It's an show, and I can't post show pics, like people could scan.

Originally posted by Illustrious
WTF? You mean you can be ridiculously fast at thinking in one instance, but the second a fight starts, Superman's IQ and thinking speed drops 50000 points, right?

Please.

Supes speed is what they compare pretty much every earthbound superhero in DC. Simply because they don't have a cartoon having him dodging the same 4 attacks every second doesn't mean he can't.

tell flash that, because he said it himself.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Not really, I do like comics better, but in terms of vs, people pick when Superman wa wriitem for one reason or another, when he does things, he shouldn't be doing, but they use it. I know Superman could beat goku before the Namek saga and maybe even a little after, but ssj then ssj2 and 3 and now 4 is godlike. It's an show, and I can't post show pics, like people could scan.

So there's no writing in a show?

Why does the logic apply one way but not the other?

Supes blitzed around with Wonder Woman before, which is a high end feat, but somehow he doesn't fight fast because he got tagged by Metallo, which was low end.

Stop trying to twist parameters for your argument. The "written for one reason or another" applies both ways. The "godlike" applies both ways. Superman plain and simple has done feats that exceed what Goku has done. Stop trying to demean what he has done to make your argument appear more valid.

You can find them if you try. I know. I'm notorious for finding pics people think don't exist.

In any case, poo-pooing the sources of Superman (Which are DC authorized) is a red herring. Supes CAN do those things. Whether or not its consistant, he has shown the ability. Trust me, everyone in the DBZ universe is HORRIBLY inconsistant. Vegeta destroys Napa with a flick of his wrist and a quick blast, someone that the entire earthbound crew couldn't properly contend with. Later on, Vegeta wrecks one of Frieza's minions in seconds, literally beating the guy to a stupid pulp. Seconds later, Vegeta is kneed in the nuts (Same animationm frames no less) like six times and goes down hard, needing to be healed. The difference in the last to combatants? Frieza's goon had a "lower power level" than the second one who floored Vegeta. But from what we saw, Vegeta simply didn't react at all to the attacks. Apparently having a lower power level makes you unable to respond properly. Otherwise, their striking speed is virtually the same throughout the series.