Goku v. Superman

Originally posted by dvampire
And you still fail to provide evidence that any DBZ/GT character is faster than Superman. Superman has them in fighting/reflexive speeds and flight speed, which makes him far faster in air combat. You can be far slower than sound and the human eye won't be able to keep up. They aren't faster, and you havn't proved that they are.

Again ssj3/4 Goku gets hurt by physical attacks that are far less than Superman's punching power, this goes for there energy blast too, which is only capable of destroying moutains/cities. 🙂

in that same notion you'be done nothing more than prove superman is fast... you have failed to provide any solidified proof he can indeed fight faster than a dbz character...

and no those enrgy blasts are concentrated for killing a sinlg opponent not destroying the world.. if they wanted to they could do so with complete and utter ease.. again... king kold>>>> solar system..

buu.>>>>>>>>>(insert infinate amount of these here lol) >>>>king kold.

Originally posted by jinzin
again ivisability from movement is nothing new to the dbz crew... infact it was a feat in their first saga... so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.. and you honestly want me to go find all the people that have trashed flash in mid movement? deathstroke anyone? 😛

physically.. yes superman's the strongest.. in terms of descructive power... no.. not even close.. king kold- ability to destroy a solar sytem.. gets worked by trunks who isn't even trying.. who in turn get chumped by goku's finger... hmmmmmmm

as far as the speed thing... it's simple... dbz characters had comparible combative feats of speed in the early stages of dbz.. it stands to reason that they are ungodly fast later on when they are literally million upon millions of times better than they once were...

One thing... King Kold saying he can destroy a solar system isn't conclusive evidence that he can. No one in the series has shown that ability. Why are we speculating on what the DBZ crew could -potentially- do with hearsay and hyperbole, but when it comes to Supes actually doing things, it gets downplayed or met with more DBZ crap?

the supes side is doing the EXACT same thing... sorry but you have no sympathy from me... 😉

Originally posted by jinzin
in that same notion you'be done nothing more than prove superman is fast... you have failed to provide any solidified proof he can indeed fight faster than a dbz character...

and no those enrgy blasts are concentrated for killing a sinlg opponent not destroying the world.. if they wanted to they could do so with complete and utter ease.. again... king kold>>>> solar system..

buu.>>>>>>>>>(insert infinate amount of these here lol) >>>>king kold.

So wait, phasing THROUGH a blast by vibrating very fast (like what he did with Doomsday) isn't fast enough for you?

By that notion, none of Goku's Ki attacks would even hurt Supes, because he'd just pass through them.

the supes side is doing the EXACT same thing... sorry but you have no sympathy from me...

Too bad no one gives a flying f*ck whether or not you have sympathy, it's still not admissable evidence. And what part of the 50 scans is "hyperbole and hearsay"?

Agreed. The Supes supporters are NOT doing the same thing.

Originally posted by jinzin
in that same notion you'be done nothing more than prove superman is fast... you have failed to provide any solidified proof he can indeed fight faster than a dbz character...

and no those enrgy blasts are concentrated for killing a sinlg opponent not destroying the world.. if they wanted to they could do so with complete and utter ease.. again... king kold>>>> solar system..

buu.>>>>>>>>>(insert infinate amount of these here lol) >>>>king kold.

And again you fail to provide any evidence that any DBZ/GT character is faster, stronger, more durable, and has better stamina. 🙂 Superman wins. 🙄

Originally posted by dvampire
And again you fail to provide any evidence that any DBZ/GT character is faster, stronger, more durable, and has better stamina. 🙂 Superman wins. 🙄

Why does this IT somehow swing the vote, when no one has shown that Goku can even withstand a hit from Superman or that he could harm superman? How does IT help him at all, considering hehas to concentrate for it anyhow?

Yeah, what's Goku going to do? IT around and not do any damage to Supes? IT around while Supes is moving so fast he's invisible, and Goku can't even see him? IT around while Supes is sipping a martini? IT around while Supes is screwing Lois?

Seriously, if you're banking on IT for this debate, it's more ova than you think.

Flying speed/ running speed/reading speed is Different than fighting speed, when you guys get that then call me, so i could continue.

Ah...

When you prove that Goku can HARM Superman and can HIT him, then we'll continue.

Jeez, learn to read and comprehend.

When you take your own advice, then continue....

Huh. That made no sense. Wait... it DID come from you. Hm. Figures. An entity must act accordingly with its nature, and anything coming from you has got to be totally unreasonable.

Originally posted by DarkC
Can Superman do Goku's instant transmission?

He doesn't need it, as Superman is light speed on his own. IT is like a teleport, Goku have to lock onto someones energy, to teleport. 🙂

It's not that it didn't make sense, it's that your little mind couldn't comprehend on what i was trying to say. Got it ?

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
When you take your own advice, then continue....

Okay, so let's accept both of your "unproven" hypothesi as fact.

Goku can't hurt Superman.
Superman doesn't fight fast.

All you have happening is Goku hitting Superman to no effect, and Superman then just takes him out. Game over.

Seriously, pick your fights wisely.

And SCANS prove Supes is fast. How is vibrating through energy blasts and punching cosmic level entities before they can respond not fast?

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
OMFG I play the victim but all of a sudden I'm whipping out third grade insults. I so pwn! DBZ RULEZZZ!!!@@!!!@@ONEONEELEVENEVLEN!!!

That's what I thought.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Flying speed/ running speed/reading speed is Different than fighting speed, when you guys get that then call me, so i could continue.

I've already showed that Supes is faster in fighting/reflexive speeds and flight speed. So when you bring evidence that any DBZ/GT cahracters is faster, stronger, more durable, and has the stamina to compete with Superman, then will continue. 🙂

Stop using that King Cold line:

1. Cell couldn't destroy Earth with his power

2. No Dbz's characters power is able to destroy a planet (on there own)

3. King Cold was obvoiusly bluffing

Originally posted by TPinaPimp
Stop using that King Cold line:

1. Cell couldn't destroy Earth with his power

2. No Dbz's characters power is able to destroy a planet (on there own)

3. King Cold was obvoiusly bluffing

TPina, hyperbole and evidence escape some people. 🙄