Doom is pretty horribly overrated. We've been through this before - Doom has few impressive battle feats. His most impressive battle feat was blasting Warlock, and given that SPIDER-MAN has done it before, I ain't all that impressed. Doom is good for coming up with ways of stealing powers or manipulating people, but I wouldn't pick him in a straight up fight against damn near anybody.
That said, he destroys Punisher with extreme prejudice. *shrug*
lol. I've argued for 20 pages with Alpha Centuri over this....to this day, no one has produced enough GOOD battle feats by Doom (Warlock, Hulk - sorta) to offset his BAD battle feats (Squirrel Girl, Luke Cage, Hawkeye, Thing, etc). That makes his average pretty lousy. And before anyone thinks of it...no, they weren't Doombots. This was the pre-Doombot era. The Squirrel Girl thing was temporarily retonned, then retconned back to it being the real Doom she punked.
But like i said, if you need powers stolen in a pinch, Doom is your man. But if you need someone to go to war with you, there's another armored cat who you should run to first.
Dude, you're right, perfectly right. But, Doom is basically....I dunno what the facination is we have with him. Maybe it's his massive balls to go up against anything or anyone, and deem them "lower" than him.
I swear, Doom would look at Living Tribuanal and say "Bah! You look foolish, you 3 faced swine!".
Also, he's pretty smart.
Doom IS a fine character, and a master at prep, but the bottom line is, this is a battle board, not a nefarious plot board. Battle scenarios like what's found on this board don't play to Doom's strengths, and therefore, Doom shouldn't be getting nearly the win percentage he does on this board. A lot of it is due to misinformation - Doom never actually beat Terrax (Terrax fused Doom's armor in one panel) and he never beat Silver Surfer (he built a special power-transfer room, then talked Surfer into entering it...ho hum), but people constantly reference these two as proof of Doom's might. Iron Man has conclusively beaten Surfer and Terrax in actual combat. People also tend to use Doom's taking a shot from Galactus as proof of his might. Magneto shielded himself AND the X-men from a Galactus blast. Quasar took a shot from Galactus too and was just fine. I don't know on what planet the act of not getting totally owned equates to a victory, lol.
Perhaps Doom's greatest feat is tricking everybody into thinking he's greater than he is.
I don't necessarily agree with it, but here it is....
Doom thrashes Castle, bending his weapon with his armor's strength while talking trash only the way Doom can. He picks up Castle by the throat, continues to talk trash, charges his gauntlet, and then gets stuck with an electromagnetic mine. The explosion knocks Doom unconscious and Castle spends forever and a day hammering through Doom's armor before getting to the squishy human parts inside.
Happened in The Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe. I'd post the scans if I could figure out how.
🤨 How has Punisher vs Doom gone on so long when everyone pretty much agrees that Doom wins unless Frank comes up with a super ingenious plan involving an electromagnetic mine (he just carries one round all the time cos you never know when you're gonna need an EM mine? 😂 ) and times it's detonation exactly right so Doom is close but doesn't have time to snap his neck with a flick of his armour-plated wrist?
Just giving a situation in which the Punisher has gone up against Doom and won. The thread, afterall, never stated that Frank had no prep. As for Doom snapping his neck, he was surprised when Castle suddenly slapped a mine to his face, which let Frank wriggle away before the thing detonated.
Like I said, I don't exactly agree that it's something that would happen often or easily, but it's still circumstantially feasible.