Thor vs. Hulk

Started by hulk=strength141 pages

Originally posted by He-guy88
hey hulk=strength look at my three part story in the hypathical tread

its aquaman vs namor

alright

Originally posted by hulk=strength
alright
where is that thread

To beat a pissed hulk you have to beyond RKT?? your kiddin right? Or did I misunderstand.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Hulk fans just wont accept that Thor killed Hulk and Thing at the same time with one hand. we cant judge what happened off panel, because we don't know what happened, all we can do is speculate.

Now I know that Hulk fans are gonna argue that when Savage Hulk is enraged he can't be killed, but he was.


All we see are Thor tackle Thing and Hulk without Mjolnir and with one arm. We then see Hulk down with hole in his stomach. There’s really no other way to look at it other than he was killed by being impaled.
Originally posted by roughrider
See, this is what we've come to with Hulk, since he was retconned in 1987 to have a healing factor. Now, people will argue he can't be killed at all, his body will regenerate from anything...If Wolverine decapitated him, will he grow a new head, too? 🙄

They want him to be Doomsday, instead of what he was before.


Retconned? Hulk always had a healing factor, all the way from his very first appearance in comics. He CAN be killed, but physically, it’s hard as hell, even for someone as strong as Thor. He is becoming a little like Doomsday nowadays, since he can now adapt to certain conditions, like breathing underwater.

And yes, if he was decapitated, his head would grow back. That’s basically how effective his healing factor is.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
So having high durability makes you impossible to kill? um no.

He's really not that hard to kill Thor showed us that, it's just Marvel can't allow him to die. That however isn't the rules of these forums.


Again, Hulk’s not impossible to kill, just really, really difficult. Hulk’s not some character that has to be sheltered by Marvel in order to keep surviving. Also, Marvel apparently can allow Hulk to die since they just did.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
I've never seen Hulk regenerate from nothingness. I've seen Maestro do it, but Maestro is a different character than Savage Hulk.

Both Savage and Maestro come from the same person and were born from the same gamma radiation. They are just two different incarnations of the Hulk. If Maestro could come back from almost nothingness, so could Savage.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Maestro is a far advanced version of Hulk. He absorbed a lot more gamma radiation than savage hulk did and has. Saying Savage Hulk can do what Maestro can do is like saying Classic Thor can do what RTK can do.

the ultimate Incarnation of Hulk is War Hulk, not savage.


War’s not really the ultimate incarnation. He’s done nothing nearly as impressive as Savage.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
All You saw was Hulk dead, so are you saying Hulk dieing is "fallacious PIS". No matter how much you can't stand it Hulk died, and it was shown in that comic.

It’s really more of how Hulk died that would bug most Hulk fans. He’s taken MUCH worse than a simple impaling to the gut and shrugged it off. Hulk dying like that is about as believable as Venom scaring Juggernaut away.
Originally posted by roughrider
I blame the Hulk fans as well, who have taken this healing factor as all-purpose ammuntion, to argue Hulk cannot be killed by anything.
It was easier when the Hulk's skin seemed impenetrable. Now he can get impaled on a massive tree trunk - and we don't even know what happened before that; he could have already died and his body was just thrown on it - and the Hulk fan will crow: "Oh that's PIS. Hulk can't be killed by that; he can regenerate."

Hulk can be killed, but it’s true that his insane durability and healing factor make the task ALMOST impossible. If anything, I believe that Hulk was knocked unconscious rather than killed in that fight gainst King Thor.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
And why? because of the fans.

You honestly think that Hulk’s fanbase is the reason he has insane strength, durability, and an extremely effective healing factor? Actually, whether it’s for the fans or not (which these comics are directed to) it shows that those abilities are definitely within Hulk’s capabilities.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Don't hate Hulk but I think he's overrated. I think Hulk defeats a lot of characters that he shouldn't, and I think a lot of characters job to him.

Thor is a character that should in all actuality should defeat Hulk every time they fight, but he doesn't because he has to job.


Jobbing? Do you think every single person Hulk beats jobs to him? Hulk ahs shown time and time again that he possesses the abilities to beat most of the people he has. The only three people that really jobbed to him were Thor, Absorbing Man, and Gladiator.
Originally posted by roughrider
And none of this was valid prior to 1987, when the writer & editor decided he had a fast-healing power all this time. Now, the healing factor has become a writer's crutch, and is spreading. Beast has a healing factor now. God, they'll probably give one to Thanos someday. Like being incredibly tough isn't enough.
I'm not saying Hulk isn't incredibly tough, but others are treating him as unkillable. They talk about his death by King Thor as just a future event that got wiped out anyway, so why not? While also endorsing the events of Hulk: The End, which is nothing more than an alternate, possible future. Can't have it both ways.

Hulk’s far from unkillable, but you’d need to drain his strength or something to really kill him effectively.

hulk wins

Only if Thor fights stupidly. If he actually uses his versatility, he wins 10/10.

but thor is stupid

Thor no longer has to fight versatile, because he no longer depends on Mjolnir to fight. In the Ragnarok run Thor became so powerful it's not even funny. His powers are no longer bound by how well he wields mjoilnir, his possibilities are now boundless. physical fight or not, Hulk loses.

"You honestly think that Hulk’s fanbase is the reason he has insane strength, durability, and an extremely effective healing factor? Actually, whether it’s for the fans or not (which these comics are directed to) it shows that those abilities are definitely within Hulk’s capabilities."

Yes, thats the reason for Hulk's random power up's all the time. (he can now adapt to anything)

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
To beat a pissed hulk you have to beyond RKT?? your kiddin right? Or did I misunderstand.
physically dude strength wise not powerwise an is rkt more powerful than silversurfer

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thor no longer has to fight versatile, because he no longer depends on Mjolnir to fight. In the Ragnarok run Thor became so powerful it's not even funny. His powers are no longer bound by how well he wields mjoilnir, his possibilities are now boundless. physical fight or not, Hulk loses.

"You honestly think that Hulk’s fanbase is the reason he has insane strength, durability, and an extremely effective healing factor? Actually, whether it’s for the fans or not (which these comics are directed to) it shows that those abilities are definitely within Hulk’s capabilities."

Yes, thats the reason for Hulk's random power up's all the time. (he can now adapt to anything)


All the time? The ability to adapt is the only upgrade Hulk's gotten in the past four decades. Besides, everyone gets upgrades every now and then (Superman, Flash, Spider-Man, Thor, Wonder Woman). Hulk's no different.

Thor has only had 2 permanant power up's, and his were told through a well thought out story. The writer just didn't throw his abilitis in there real quick so he could survive this attack.

Anyways why are we debating about Hulk's powers?

Thor takes this 10/10 with or without Mjoilnir

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thor no longer has to fight versatile, because he no longer depends on Mjolnir to fight. In the Ragnarok run Thor became so powerful it's not even funny. His powers are no longer bound by how well he wields mjoilnir, his possibilities are now boundless. physical fight or not, Hulk loses.

"You honestly think that Hulk’s fanbase is the reason he has insane strength, durability, and an extremely effective healing factor? Actually, whether it’s for the fans or not (which these comics are directed to) it shows that those abilities are definitely within Hulk’s capabilities."

Yes, thats the reason for Hulk's random power up's all the time. (he can now adapt to anything)

so nobody else is gettin powerups huh i think the case is hes not respected an nobodys seen the sheer numbers of impressive not subpar feats of hulk and hulk also jobs everytime he doesnt kill or seriously injure his opponents an everytime he fights namor also ........u also cant call PIS on hulk often because his potential for strength,durabiliy,stamina and etc. are comparable to franklin richards reality alterin potential when he grows up bein that neither of their immense powers are limited

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thor has only had 2 permanant power up's, and his were told through a well thought out story. The writer just didn't throw his abilitis in there real quick so he could survive this attack.

Anyways why are we debating about Hulk's powers?

Thor takes this 10/10 with or without Mjoilnir

for this one time i agree that he beats him but not physically,everyother way but physically hulks beaten but dont say how well hes gonna do based on mangogs showin(U HAVENT SOUJABOY SUMBODY DID THOUGH) against rkt because hulk is practically uber an mangog against a pissed hulk is not a fight that would last a long time

Did you just compare Franklin Richards powers to Hulk's? there's really no comparison.

So your saying that every time Hulk gets beaten or doesn't kill or injure his opponent it's PIS? Why is it so hard to believe that Hulk can be beaten? He's just another super powered brute, it's not like Hulk's completely impervious to harm.

Originally posted by hulk=strength
for this one time i agree that he beats him but not physically,everyother way but physically hulks beaten but dont say how well hes gonna do based on mangogs showin(U HAVENT SOUJABOY SUMBODY DID THOUGH) against rkt because hulk is practically uber an mangog against a pissed hulk is not a fight that would last a long time

There's a Hulk vs Mangog thread I created, I think you should go there.

hulks power is not unlimeted, otherwise he would cream adsolutely everyone he fights

It's said to be, but he's not the only character.

but like i said before HOW CAN YOU BECOME STRONGER THAN MINDLESS!!

Ask them, im sure they have the answer.

You are right, in a movie I watch Hulk kick thour, Captain America, Ant-man, and Iron man, all by himself so If he beat 4 guys (plus an alien army) in one round what the heck mecks others thing he is not going to beat thour 😈