Question about Kingship in Episode III.

If this has been address before feel free to let me know and it will be closed. But there is something about the Skywalker family that I been thinking lately. If Padme is a Queen that would make Anakin a King right? And of course Leia is a Princess. By logic that makes Luke a Prince. So, when Anakin dies the title is of King belongs to Luke. But since Anakin Skywalker was pronunce death in Episode III therefore there is no more king until Luke appears later in the trilogy. Why isn't Luke recognized as a new King? Or all that stuff about Royalty isn't really crucial to the saga? Help Please with clarification.

but padme has a limited term as queen, and once that term is up there is no reference to her as a queen.

luke and leia therefor are not royalty...by blood

the title of this thread brings up another question though...

when did bail organa declare himself king????

he had to if leia was a princess and in ep3 he is but a senator.

isnt it odd that he went from mourning the loss of democracy to declaring himself the omnipotent ruler of his world? THAT is weird imho

Right, I didn't want to get Bail involved because it will open a new can of questions, but you're right. At what moment did he declare himself King? And wouldn't not be better for Bail to keep Luke instead of Leia? Like I mention before Luke by logic is a Prince. When he gets older he can be declare King.

Some believe that "Bail" is an indication of title. It maybe more a title than a kingship.

Originally posted by WindDancer
And wouldn't not be better for Bail to keep Luke instead of Leia? Like I mention before Luke by logic is a Prince.

How is he by logic a Prince?

His father was a Jedi and his mother a Senator.

Jedi+Senator=Royalty?

no no no

Leia being princess had nothing to do with being Padme's daughter. They were hidden as a secret. Leia was a princess because of Bail (senator), Bail's status might have been changed to ruler of Alderaan or something so Leia was declared princess.

Originally posted by Morridini
How is he by logic a Prince?

By bloodline...if Padme is Queen then all her children belong to the royalty.

Originally posted by WindDancer
Right, I didn't want to get Bail involved because it will open a new can of questions, but you're right. At what moment did he declare himself King? And wouldn't not be better for Bail to keep Luke instead of Leia? Like I mention before Luke by logic is a Prince. When he gets older he can be declare King.

depends on their law.

luke is leia's sibling, but leia is adopted.
therefore i dont think luke would legally be the son of bail.
so i think no, luke is not considered heir to the throne in any way.

Originally posted by WindDancer
By bloodline...if Padme is Queen then all her children belong to the royalty.

But she is no Queen, that's where the logic falters.

Originally posted by WindDancer
By bloodline...if Padme is Queen then all her children belong to the royalty.

but thats the point you're missin.
the title of 'queen' on naboo is simply a glorified elected governor with a very limited term. she is not really a queen in the sense that we understand.
temporary royalty you might say

Luke can't be a prince because he wasn't adopted by Bail. King? wtf, Alderaan was destroyed people, along with bail

Naboo Queen's are basically just presidents or prime ministers. There is no royal family on naboo. That is why Padmé is just senator in episode 2. I believe it's similar on Alderaan. Leia basically remains princess leia because there is no Alderaan left.

Originally posted by Robin Darkside
King? wtf, Alderaan was destroyed people, along with bail

somebody take the professor to the back and plug him into the hyperdrive!!!!

its hypothetical, einstein

Originally posted by WindDancer
If this has been address before feel free to let me know and it will be closed. But there is something about the Skywalker family that I been thinking lately. If Padme is a Queen that would make Anakin a King right? And of course Leia is a Princess. By logic that makes Luke a Prince. So, when Anakin dies the title is of King belongs to Luke. But since Anakin Skywalker was pronunce death in Episode III therefore there is no more king until Luke appears later in the trilogy. Why isn't Luke recognized as a new King? Or all that stuff about Royalty isn't really crucial to the saga? Help Please with clarification.

Padme's deferred another term to allow Jemillia become Queen in E2. She was only a Senator in Episode 2, when the two were married.

Bail is King of Alderaan. It was never really made public, not in the movies anyway. So, the lineage makes sense when you go through him.

So for all the queens of Naboo that had kids, are all considered royalty??

Originally posted by PVS
somebody take the professor to the back and plug him into the hyperdrive!!!!

its hypothetical, einstein

no shit

Originally posted by Robin Darkside
So for all the queens of Naboo that had kids, are all considered royalty??

no they are not

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Padme's deferred another term to allow Jemillia become Queen in E2. She was only a Senator in Episode 2, when the two were married.

Bail is King of Alderaan. It was never really made public, not in the movies anyway. So, the lineage makes sense when you go through him.

Excellent point! Thank you Cinema that helps clear the fog in the family tree.

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Padme's deferred another term to allow Jemillia become Queen in E2. She was only a Senator in Episode 2, when the two were married.

Lucas' royal family tree is way, way out of whack. Leia can't be a Princess, nor Luke a Prince unless Bail Organa was somehow married to little Keisha Castle-Hughes in Episode 3, which he wasn't because he was gabbing about how his wife would take Leia, and he, Luke.

Uncle George lost himself in his own story bigtime.

unless bail and his wife died soon after and leia was then adopted by the queen (if there was another person who was a monarch rather than bail). that would answer some questions, since leia then could have thought that bail's wife was her real mother...she could have been twice orphaned and adopted....would fill that plot hole, wouldnt it?

Don't see what the mystery is here. By birthright or election, Bail Organa is Royalty. His daughter is therefore a Princess.

There exists in the SW Galaxy a clear mix of democracy and aristocracy on some planets.

I will have to watch the film again to check, but I seem to remember Bail being referred to with a deference due to royalty on board the Tantive IV.

Luke isn't a Prince because he hasn't been posing as Bail's son.