Question about Kingship in Episode III.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Except Bail Organa has to be Leia's father in ANH because only he fits the logical description of Leia's message to Obi-Wan.

Originally posted by PVS
shit...you're right

*plot hole reemerges*

missing the point, I think

Bail will always be Leia's father, I mean if Bail's wife (The one in EP III) dies, then Bail remarries and the new wife raises Leia. Then in EP VI, when Leia talks about her mother to Luke, where all she remembers is images and feelings. Leia is refering to her first step mother but she actually thinks its her real mother. Because her second adopted mother is still around. Bail has remarried.

Like I said, it would fill the plot hole of Leia remembering her actual real mother (Padme) when she only saw her for 3 seconds before she died

LUKE: Do you remember your mother? Your real mother...

Leia's not referring to the Queen of Alderaan.

Originally posted by Captain REX
LUKE: Do you remember your mother? Your real mother...

Leia's not referring to the Queen of Alderaan.

Just saying

wtf, do you think she was refering to Padme?????

no, she was referring to the other woman who gave birth to her.

ffs 😖

Originally posted by PVS
no, she was referring to the other woman who gave birth to her.

ffs 😖

?????

Ush is right on the money on this one... Luke has no claim to any royal title whatsoever

And yes.. Leia WAS DEFINITLEY talking about Padme in ROTJ

ok, plot hole re-emerges

what friggin plot hole??

sorry but this one seems to be a non issue to me

EP VI

Luke: "Do you remember your mother, your real mother?"

Leia: "just a little bit, she died when I was very young"

Luke: "What do you remember?"

Leia: "Just images really, feelings"

Luke: "Tell me"

Leia: "She was very beutiful, kind, but sad. Why are you asking me this?"

Luke: "I have no memory of my mother, I never knew her"

Leia knows padme pretty good....

yes, major Major plot hole.

although as kinda far fetched as Robin Darkside theory was on leia actually having 2 step mothers, it would take care of this plot hole if leia thought her first adopted mother was her real mother.

this in my mind is the single largest plot hole in the entire SW saga

well yeah the leia thing is my biggest gripe about ROTS .. i thought you meant thewhole Luke as a prince 'plothole' - of which there is none 😛

Big plot hole, I know, it bothers me, I try to come up with my own solution though

Maybe Padme' made a speial bond with Leia when she was born you know, the Force.

Originally posted by PVS
the title of this thread brings up another question though...

when did bail organa declare himself king????

he had to if leia was a princess and in ep3 he is but a senator.

isnt it odd that he went from mourning the loss of democracy to declaring himself the omnipotent ruler of his world? THAT is weird imho

He was a senator in coruscant but ruler of his own world. Like Padme and probably others in the senate

remember at the end of e3 when bail took leia and said that his wife and he always wanted a little girl. his wife was a queen dident u see their palace ?

Originally posted by Robin Darkside
EP VI

Luke: "Do you remember your mother, your real mother?"

Leia: "just a little bit, she died when I was very young"

Luke: "What do you remember?"

Leia: "Just images really, feelings"

Luke: "Tell me"

Leia: "She was very beutiful, kind, but sad. Why are you asking me this?"

Luke: "I have no memory of my mother, I never knew her"

Leia knows padme pretty good....

This actually is'nt all that big a plot hole.

Leia: "Just images really, feelings"

This does'nt mean she knew Padme well. It could be that somehow those images were transferred at birth and she remembered them forever. A really suck connection to the PT, but not a plot hole.

As for Luke having kingship, that is really trivial compared to being potentially responsible for the rebirth of th jedi order.

Originally posted by jerlark386
This actually is'nt all that big a plot hole.

Leia: "Just images really, feelings"

This does'nt mean she knew Padme well. It could be that somehow those images were transferred at birth and she remembered them forever. A really suck connection to the PT, but not a plot hole.

As for Luke having kingship, that is really trivial compared to being potentially responsible for the rebirth of th jedi order.

wtf, is that.

I wish intelliegence and star wars realists, would answer, not u, noob

I like to talk of the real revalence of Star Wars, its waht keeps ya going, I know girls, I;m not a geek, its just that, people dont know the real feeliing of the star wars saga

I'm not going to read through all of the posts in this thread because I have a simple answer:

Bail Organa was the head of the royal family of Alderaan. Because he adopts Princess Leia into the royal family, Leia becomes a princess. It has absolutely nothing to do with Padme being a Queen on Naboo. This is because Padme was no longer a Queen after Episode I. She became a senator. The position of Queen was elected... not inherited.

Luke is not a prince. Leia was adopted... Luke was not. And since Alderaan was destroyed, and the royal family basically destroyed, Leia being a princess really lost all of it's meaning.

Hope that answers the questions. 🙂

Originally posted by Robin Darkside
wtf, is that.

I wish intelliegence and star wars realists, would answer, not u, noob

I post a simple ****ing post, atleast as logical as half the shit I see here at KMC and I get this bullshit. If it were physically possible for my hands to travel through this modem and choke you to death I think I would. wtf is a star wars realist? Oh I see, you mean a Star Wars *******. Post shit like that and all your going to get is flamed. You're the one thats a noob. I wish all the people on the earth like you would just die. DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE!

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