Question about Kingship in Episode III.

Started by Cinemaddiction4 pages

I edited my initial response to make more sense. Going through Bail, the lineage is right on the money. He's the unproclaimed King of Alderaan, his wife the Queen. So, Bail and his wifey die, that indeed makes Luke the king and Leia's already the Princess, leaving the future Queen position open to Mara Jade, and the Prince title to Han Solo, I'd imagine.

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So Luke does have right to Kingship then?

maybe bails wife is queen of alderaan and that is where leia gets her princess from.

On this planet if a woman is queen and marries her husband is only a prince, not king, but this does not neccisarrily hold true in the starwars universe.

Err... sorry, no, Luke has no claim to Kingship. He is not Bail's adopted son, therefore has no lineage that way, and the Naboo line is elected, not hereditary, so he has no claim there either.

Luke's just a commoner, I am afraid.

Okay, okay, okay...Here is another thought for you guys. Could it be that Bail is nothing more than a "Self-Proclaim King"?

We don't know.

However, by SW logic, Bail is a good guy. So any way he is King is morally acceptable- either elected, or a just and fair ruler. That's how SW works.

Originally posted by darthmaul1
maybe bails wife is queen of alderaan and that is where leia gets her princess from.

On this planet if a woman is queen and marries her husband is only a prince, not king, but this does not neccisarrily hold true in the starwars universe.

She is. You're a little late, lol.

On this planet, that's considered incest.

Re: Re: Re: Question about Kingship in Episode III.

Originally posted by PVS
unless bail and his wife died soon after and leia was then adopted by the queen (if there was another person who was a monarch rather than bail). that would answer some questions, since leia then could have thought that bail's wife was her real mother...she could have been twice orphaned and adopted....would fill that plot hole, wouldnt it?

yeah, if Leia thought of her real mother being Bails wife at the end of EP III, then she dies, and Bail remarries, that would make sense

Originally posted by Ushgarak
We don't know.

However, by SW logic, Bail is a good guy. So any way he is King is morally acceptable- either elected, or a just and fair ruler. That's how SW works.

I see, so that would take us more into the EU and away from the Skywalker saga.

Except Bail Organa has to be Leia's father in ANH because only he fits the logical description of Leia's message to Obi-Wan.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Err... sorry, no, Luke has no claim to Kingship. He is not Bail's adopted son, therefore has no lineage that way, and the Naboo line is elected, not hereditary, so he has no claim there either.

Luke's just a commoner, I am afraid.

Bail was def. Leia's dad by definition. Luke was adopted by the Queen of Alderaan, thus entering a royal family BUT then he was adopted AGAIN by Owen and Beru, so I guess he gave up his royalty there...

Sorry, Cine, what are you talking about? Luke was not adopted by the Queen of Alderan ever.

Originally posted by WindDancer
I see, so that would take us more into the EU and away from the Skywalker saga.

Yup. The means of Bail's Kingship (or Emperorship or even Princeship) is not covered by canon. It's also not very important.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Yup. The means of Bail's Kingship (or Emperorship or even Princeship) is not covered by canon. It's also not very important.

At first I thought it was important because it explains why Leia is given the title of Princess in ANH.

Well, that's nothing to do with the means of why he is King (or whatever). The only important thing is that he has a royal title.

I drew the conclusion that the Organa's would held onto Luke for the time being, not just throwing him right at his grandparents. Oh well. Kind of makes you wonder why they only took one.

As Obi-Wan explains in ROTJ, they were seperated for their own safety.

Yup! Keeping the two together would have been dangerous.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Except Bail Organa has to be Leia's father in ANH because only he fits the logical description of Leia's message to Obi-Wan.

shit...you're right

*plot hole reemerges*

And that's a plothole how?