Beast vs Wolverine

Originally posted by pea55
1.Heres the proof
... OHOTMU Master Edition #14 - (Simian Beast) Class 10 Beast1.jpg

Originally posted by pea55
2.Beast had his amp in the 1970s when he fought the Juggernaut the 1st time, and he picked up the ship in the 90s. You yourself said that the amp lasted a short time and thats over 20 years in between proving the space ship feat not being during the Beast amp period.

Originally posted by King Castle
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/1005864-10_27_2009_9_07_22_am.jpg

If Beast grabs or pulls this its over in one shot.

^ laughcry

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Why does everyone keep assuming beast is considerably stronger then wolverine, because that is straight up BS. One would be hard pressed to even prove beast is stronger. I actaully like to see evidence that beast is stronger then wolverine let a lone to any considerable advantage.

Originally posted by Mindset

in the comic Beast failed to ko or slow down Logan.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
beast general strength is not 10 tons. That is a lie. I would love to see you prove this.

space ship event was during his amping. Car is not a ten ton feat and is by far his most impressive feat to date out side amping. I like to see some evidence of this supose bulldozer feat.

Give a source for what? All you have made is statements, you havent provided any evidence. What are you looking for me to prove? I not the one making bullshit claims that beast is 10 tonner.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
No it not. Hand books are not evidence. There constantly wrong, but feel free to ask a mod.

In Comics beast has never been suggested as stronger then wolverine and in the one comparison between the two in strength, showed wolverine fair the better.

Wolverine also has more consistent strength feats as well.

Wolverine.

we go by forum rules and Bio's are only use to already support a character established shown powerset on panel.

the reason we dont simply use the bio's is b/c they are notoriously unreliable has bn for decades.. we have characters who were written at 30 tons when they were in fact 100+ b/c the writer in charge thought it was the power lvl they should be even though they were already stated on panel of being high herlad strength matching Thor, herc and Maxam.. only for it to be revised a year later by another writer.

Originally posted by pea55
When u can prove that handbooks are inaccurate my point is valid... Until then put a sock in it. Besides who gives a chicken turd about what a mod says. Marvel makes these handbooks just as well as the characters, not the mods. As far as consistency goes logan is a much more popular character and makes way more appearances... So of course hes gonna be more consistent DUHHHH!

We don't use handbooks for power levels because most of the time they're inconsistent with what happens in actual comics. They're a secondary resource and always have been.

You can use them to back up something that happened in an actual comic, but that's as far as it goes.

Handbooks are fine for histories usually, though.

Originally posted by -Pr-
We don't use handbooks for power levels because most of the time they're inconsistent with what happens in actual comics. They're a secondary resource and always have been.

Originally posted by Starscream M
comics are often inconsistent with comics too though.

Nobody is denying that, but you have maybe one handbook a year. You have at least twelve issues per major character. most of the time there's an average when it comes to comics.

handbooks tend to use old, outdated facts and figures about power levels in plenty of cases.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Nobody is denying that, but you have maybe one handbook a year. You have at least twelve issues per major character. most of the time there's an average when it comes to comics.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Not evidence. That a hand book my friend and is quite unusable. try again.

I asking for evidence of the existance of this space ship feat. I never seen it. Lets see it proven that it exsists.

Originally posted by pea55
The SPACESHIP FEAT! http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums...heBeast3-22.jpg Now you're done! LMAO!!!!

Originally posted by pea55
The SPACESHIP FEAT! http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums...heBeast3-22.jpg Now you're done! LMAO!!!!

Works for me.

Beast wins.

Wolverine.

Originally posted by Mindset
Works for me.

Beast wins.

Originally posted by -Pr-
We don't use handbooks for power levels because most of the time they're inconsistent with what happens in actual comics. They're a secondary resource and always have been.

You can use them to back up something that happened in an actual comic, but that's as far as it goes.

Handbooks are fine for histories usually, though.

Originally posted by pea55
I see your point but most of does not mean all. and your point about handbooks is not proving me wrong either. i mean nobody can prove that particular info to be inaccurate. So to say that specific info in that handbook is wrong is completely an assumption.

it's not when the comics directly contradict what the handbook says.

there are grey areas some of the time, but comics will always be more consistent, and as such take priority.

there's generally no problem using a handbook to back up an existing argument taken from the pages of the comic, but using it as the basis of one's argument isn't really a good idea when there can be so much more evidence to the contrary.

it's our policy to go by the comics above all. handbooks are okay if they're not contradictory in some cases.