War of the Worlds...as in, we need one.

Originally posted by FeceMan
What the Germans were doing was genocide and their aim was to conquer the world. Our allies needed our help, and, if we hadn't jumped in, our own country would have been in danger.

I can guarantee that if aliens did invade, things would get a lot more cooperative with governments throughout the world.

So, what we're doing to our own planet is genocide. With the inevitable end of destroying a great world.

If Aliens hadn't jumped in, it would have been destroyed.

What then? Coz that's your rationale.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What a silly rationale.

When we invaded Germany during the war, were we automatically the bad guys due to invasion?

If aliens were coming here to clean up the mess that is our planet, bring them. I'll welcome them.

-AC

unless your a pure blood..in which case they'll take you out back and shoot a laser through your head

😆

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So, what we're doing to our own planet is genocide. With the inevitable end of destroying a great world.

If Aliens hadn't jumped in, it would have been destroyed.

What then? Coz that's your rationale.

-AC

The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.

And my rationale was that we were protecting our allies--aliens are not allies with 'Mother Nature' or whatever the hell you want to call it--and we were defending a sentient species. Not a plant or a bug or a ball of rock with stuff growing on it.

So species only have a right to be defended if they're sentient?

Because bugs are sentient.

Someone hasn't thought things through, and it isn't me.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So species only have a right to be defended if they're sentient?

Because bugs are sentient.

Someone hasn't thought things through, and it isn't me.

-AC

We're the dominant species on this planet. I don't care if there are more insects than humans on the planet because, if that's the case, than bacteria and viruses should be the dominant species. We're intelligent and continuing to advance. Insects are never going to build houses or cars. Dogs are never going to build houses or cars. Neither are dolphins or primates.

My rationale was that we were defending a species that is self-aware, can discern between good and evil, and can understand fully what happens around it. The Nazis were evil. We were protecting other humans--members of our species--from being exterminated. If Hitler had decided to declare war on crabgrass, no one would have cared. But Hitler declared war on humans.

Whoever hasn't thought things through must be Jackie.

Originally posted by FeceMan

Whoever hasn't thought things through must be Jackie.

That's just the meanest thing you can say i n a debat...you are despicable.......

Anyways I think we as a species see when defending ourselves would call us "good" although this term doesn't really apply.
I personally beliecve there is no real "good" or "evil" there is only definitions of "good" and "evil" and today most people in our society (at least western, probaly a lot of others too) today would agree to us (the humans) being good while other species would be considered evil....same with Hitler and the Nazis, most people nowadays would define them as "evil"...that's the closest we will ever come to ideas like "good" and "evil".....

Originally posted by FeceMan
Humans are the only species that have a right to be defended--as they are the only species who can establish a government with rights. Do I think other species should be defended? Yes. Am I going to petition for them to have the right to be defended or to vote? No.

We're the dominant species on this planet. I don't care if there are more insects than humans on the planet because, if that's the case, than bacteria and viruses should be the dominant species. We're intelligent and continuing to advance. Insects are never going to build houses or cars. Dogs are never going to build houses or cars. Neither are dolphins or primates.

My rationale was that we were defending a species that is self-aware, can discern between good and evil, and can understand fully what happens around it. The Nazis were evil. We were protecting other humans--members of our species--from being exterminated. If Hitler had decided to declare war on crabgrass, no one would have cared. But Hitler declared war on humans.

Whoever hasn't thought things through must be Jackie.

So your rationale is getting to an end product that is beneficial?

What if the beneficial result was Earth's destruction?

As for us continuing to advance, that's very debatable.

Dolphins etc are never gonna be as advanced, true. But they'll never have wars and all that fun stuff.

Works both ways.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So your rationale is getting to an end product that is beneficial?

What if the beneficial result was Earth's destruction?

As for us continuing to advance, that's very debatable.

Dolphins etc are never gonna be as advanced, true. But they'll never have wars and all that fun stuff.

Works both ways.

-AC

Earth's destruction isn't beneficial to us. In fact, it's beneficial to nothing. All those animals you wanted to save earlier? Dead. In what way would Earth's destruction be beneficial to anyone but the aliens--and how would it benefit them, anyhow?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So your rationale is getting to an end product that is beneficial?

What if the beneficial result was Earth's destruction?

As for us continuing to advance, that's very debatable.

Dolphins etc are never gonna be as advanced, true. But they'll never have wars and all that fun stuff.

Works both ways.

-AC

Originally posted by FeceMan
I don't understand where you are getting my rationale that the ends justify the means. I didn't mean to imply that in my post; could you elaborate?

Earth's destruction isn't beneficial to us. In fact, it's beneficial to nothing. All those animals you wanted to save earlier? Dead. In what way would Earth's destruction be beneficial to anyone but the aliens--and how would it benefit them, anyhow?

Its not even funny how much Douglas Adams you could answer to each of your posts. 😛

Originally posted by Bardock42
Its not even funny how much Douglas Adams you could answer to each of your posts. 😛

Originally posted by FeceMan
Hush. No one is constructing an intergalactic bypass through Earth.

And think aboot the two more intelligent species than humans......

Originally posted by Bardock42
But what if....

And think aboot the two more intelligent species than humans......

Originally posted by Bardock42
But what if....

And think aboot the two more intelligent species than humans......

Cows...

Just watch Southpark and you will know what I mean.. The aliens think cows are the smartest things on this planet, they must be right.

Originally posted by FeceMan
If mice were so smart, they would have figured out how to fix mousetraps so that they'd snap on fingers instead of their spines.

You know they did that to experiment on us.....

Originally posted by Fishy
Cows...

Just watch Southpark and you will know what I mean.. The aliens think cows are the smartest things on this planet, they must be right.

Aliens in South park are idiots though...they don't even have substantives, make TV-Shows out of a stupid little planet and Award "The biggest douche in the Universe"

And "The Biggest Douhce in the Universe" award goes to...

*Drumroll.*

...Ou Be Low hoo!

(Hope I got his name right and I apologize for the dig, but I just had to, hehe.)

Originally posted by FeceMan
And "The Biggest Douhce in the Universe" award goes to...

*Drumroll.*

...Ou Be Low hoo!

(Hope I got his name right and I apologize for the dig, but I just had to, hehe.)

right name.....funny too....but sad 🙁

.....good episode though

Originally posted by Bardock42

Aliens in South park are idiots though...they don't even have substantives, make TV-Shows out of a stupid little planet and Award "The biggest douche in the Universe"

Aliens are aliens...

Originally posted by Fishy
Aliens are aliens...

Originally posted by Bardock42
You mean "Magla are magla"

That too 😄

Originally posted by FeceMan
I don't understand where you are getting my rationale that the ends justify the means. I didn't mean to imply that in my post; could you elaborate?

Earth's destruction isn't beneficial to us. In fact, it's beneficial to nothing. All those animals you wanted to save earlier? Dead. In what way would Earth's destruction be beneficial to anyone but the aliens--and how would it benefit them, anyhow?

I never said anything about it being beneficial to us.

I'm talking about on a grander scale. If it were beneficial to more than just our insignificant rock floating in space.

If Earth's destruction was to the benefit of say, the universe. Killing one planet to save a great many, would you do it?

-AC