Originally posted by jrodslam
kgkg, when only wasp and warbird was attacking, Surfer was unable to move. The others came in 3 pages later.Wonderman and Vision was NOT using tech that Surfer used. They used rigs to tap into their own internal power stores. It increased their energy output. It was to modulate Surfers energy just like Surfer did to Wonderman. They didnt take any tech from Surfer. They just used his modulating idea back at him.
Wonderman isnt Hulk level either.
And they werent trying to KO him. Just contain him.
Good luck trying to convince him...he feels all his characters are invincible.
Energy supes is not invincible, but neither is surfer by a long shot. Especially since they can scan each other weaknesses instantly.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
PIS writing..Caught by surprise, with kryptonian tech that could possibly hurt surfer as well.Still, KG...impressive..but the same can be said of this...
A simple lightning blast nearly does surfer in....and he's asking Storm to hold...
Where does that scan suggest that she nearly did him in? She simply staggered him with the lightning. He groans, then he grabs her and tells her to stop.
Originally posted by kgkg
That doesn't K.O him or anythingI have provided three examples where energy supes was useless, it all had to do with someone who had something to do with energy.
It is very clear that Energy supes can be easily effect ( my anything that can control energy)
SS is master of energy, can absorb near limitless about
Examples have also been shown where Surfer has been rendered useless.
Did he absorb Storms energy? It seemed as if she rendered him useless.
Wasp and warbird had Surfer rendered useless.
The Avengers also had Surfer rendered useless.
Examples have been shown on both sides. Good debating.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Examples have also been shown where Surfer has been rendered useless.Did he absorb Storms energy? It seemed as if she rendered him useless.
Wasp and warbird had Surfer rendered useless.
The Avengers also had Surfer rendered useless.
Examples have been shown on both sides. Good debating.
It seemed as if she rendered him useless - did you read the issue , that did nothing
Wasp and warbird had Surfer rendered useless , that's why most of the avengers had to attack SS , at the same time?
The Avengers also had Surfer rendered useless - They stoped him from moving , they can't attack forever , it was matter of time
Originally posted by kgkg
nothing left SS uselessIt seemed as if she rendered him useless - did you read the issue , that did nothing
Wasp and warbird had Surfer rendered useless , that's why most of the avengers had to attack SS , at the same time?
The Avengers also had Surfer rendered useless - They stoped him from moving , they can't attack forever , it was matter of time
Ok....I didnt read the comic. What happened after Surfer told Storm to stop? Did he regain his strength and blast her away? Enlighten me on what happened why dont you.
Wasp and Warbird didnt have Surfer rendered useless? Lol. Surfer was out of the fight for 3 pages. They contained him till Wonderman and Vision were able to come back and help.
All the Avengers came and helped because Wasp and Warbird couldnt have held Surfer for the entire fight. It would have been a sad event if they did.
Yea the Avengers stoped Surfer from even moving. Meaning he was rendered useless lol. You say it was only a matter of time?
Yea only a matter of time before Huk came over and saved his ass lol.
I just remembered...Supes drained the Parasite in Adventures of Superman #552. Parasites powers are to drain and mimic others powers... Superman scared the hell out of him in this issue and parasite stayed away for a long long time...
If Supes can drain parasite, he can certainly drain surfer. He isn't even normally an energy character...He drained the drainer! 😆
Originally posted by jrodslam
Ok....I didnt read the comic. What happened after Surfer told Storm to stop? Did he regain his strength and blast her away? Enlighten me on what happened why dont you.Wasp and Warbird didnt have Surfer rendered useless? Lol. Surfer was out of the fight for 3 pages. They contained him till Wonderman and Vision were able to come back and help.
All the Avengers came and helped because Wasp and Warbird couldnt have held Surfer for the entire fight. It would have been a sad event if they did.
Yea the Avengers stoped Surfer from even moving. Meaning he was rendered useless lol. You say it was only a matter of time?
Yea only a matter of time before Huk came over and saved his ass lol.
If the avengers did that do supes he would be on the ground dead.
As I said Energy supes is very weak when some can messes with his energies
He will loose this pretty badly
SS - can absorb him like nothing, Energy supes has tried and has failed and had trouble with his type of stuff.
Again SS is at another level he absorb stars, can manipulate matter easily, he can actually make energy supes stones.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I just remembered...Supes drained the Parasite in Adventures of Superman #552. Parasites powers are to drain and mimic others powers... Superman scared the hell out of him in this issue and parasite stayed away for a long long time...If Supes can drain parasite, he can certainly drain surfer. He isn't even normally an energy character...He drained the drainer! 😆
Energy supes couldn't even control him, after he absorbed (couldn’t control his actions) and then he was lying on the ground.
Compare that with Sucking stars, and can absorb limitless energy? hmmmmmmmm
SS has defeated people like Abo when he had almost no powers etc
He wins this as you have seen teaser could stop Energy supes
Originally posted by kgkg
Did you read that issue?Energy supes couldn't even control him, after he absorbed (couldn’t control his actions) and then he was lying on the ground.
Compare that with Sucking stars, and can absorb limitless energy? hmmmmmmmm
SS has defeated people like Abo when he had almost no powers etc
He wins this as you have seen teaser could stop Energy supes
Did you read the issue? Supes nearly killed him and parasite was scared. This is the issue learned he can absorb.
Do you even have any idea how powerful parasite is? He can absorb anything. Any power and even things like momemtum and memories. Feel free to look around for info on him.
Why are you bringing up sucking stars? SS powers up from them...have you seen him drain a star completely? Both characters can do this if they wish..supes powers up a lot quicker, so moot point there for you. Stop being ridiculous. Turn energy supes into stone? Thats as hilarious as supes turning Surfer into stone.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Did you read the issue? Supes nearly killed him and parasite was scared. This is the issue learned he can absorb.Do you even have any idea how powerful parasite is? He can absorb anything. Any power and even things like momemtum and memories. Feel free to look around for info on him.
Why are you bringing up sucking stars? SS powers up from them...have you seen him drain a star completely? Both characters can do this if they wish..supes powers up a lot quicker, so moot point there for you. Stop being ridiculous. Turn energy supes into stone? Thats as hilarious as supes turning Surfer into stone.
Supes can turn people into stones? No, SS can
SS can manipulate his own atoms, Energy supes get's stopped by Teaser , and stops his energy.
SS can make a teaser and stop him 😄
Why bring up his sucking stars
Well if he can sucks energy of stars, he can certainly drain energy supes , if energy supes tries he will fall , as you have seen in my scans there are limits.
Like I said Energy supes is really weak against people that can absorb his energies, SS absorb energy at a cosmic level.
And plus that he was all these other powers to help him out
Haven't read all 24 pages but Supes being taken down by a few tasers seems a lot lower than anything that's happened to Surfer. Surfer also seems to have higher end feats - such as planetary-scale matter transmutation and the ability to black out the entire planet when he got pissed at humans. So, if Surfer's highs are higher than energy Supes and Surfer's lows are also higher than energy Supes, then it seems pretty clear cut to me that Surfer takes this.
Originally posted by demigawd
Haven't read all 24 pages but Supes being taken down by a few tasers seems a lot lower than anything that's happened to Surfer. Surfer also seems to have higher end feats - such as planetary-scale matter transmutation and the ability to black out the entire planet when he got pissed at humans. So, if Surfer's highs are higher than energy Supes and Surfer's lows are also higher than energy Supes, then it seems pretty clear cut to me that Surfer takes this.
-Talking world destroying attacks from Korvac
- Supernova having no effect
- Blasting Planets
etc
Originally posted by kgkg
Parasite absorb organic life energy, and he has to touch.Supes can turn people into stones? No, SS can
SS can manipulate his own atoms, Energy supes get's stopped by Teaser , and stops his energy.
SS can make a teaser and stop him 😄
Why bring up his sucking stars
Well if he can sucks energy of stars, he can certainly drain energy supes , if energy supes tries he will fall , as you have seen in my scans there are limits.
Like I said Energy supes is really weak against people that can absorb his energies, SS absorb energy at a cosmic level.
And plus that he was all these other powers to help him out
Lets see, the tasers were before the parasite issue, and supes had just gotten his powers. Now...parasite, who is a far better at absorbing than the tasers are was drained by supes. So supes can drain surfer all the same.
I never claimed Supes can turn things to stone. I said its as ridiculous (ie not going to happen) as Surfer turning supes to stone.
Now what scan has shown supes falling while absorbing energy... what scan has even shown supes weak in this form? Even after your taser thing...he was still powered up. There have been plenty of examples here of SS tired and weak and being held immobile by other energy wielders.