Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Dr Light tried turning him into radio signals and sending him across the galaxy. Supes just came back a few panels later unharmed.
JLA Rock of Ages StorylineYou are assuming about Cyborg. I told you what happens. Cyborg and toyman trap supes in a machine to disperse and drain his energy to destroy him. Result? Superman Red/Superman Blue.
Issue is Superman red/Superman Blue #1As for proving he doesnt run out of energy, have you seen him run out? Nope. My scan shows him absorbing energy from the environment. Yours shows SS using the sun. BIG difference.
Superman #123 Superman drew power from a neon sign and then used it to attack Ceritak. By doing this, Superman, was able to travel faster than light (at least that's what it said). Action Comics #732, when he traveled to a research station in Antarctica, and then back to Metropolis again. He teleported.
Define "environment."
In case you didn't know, radio signals aren't sound waves.
Cyborg tried to disperse Superman's energy, not absorb it.
I haven't read any comics involving Energy Superman, so I can't say that I have seen him run out of energy. That doesn't mean that he can't run out. Are you assuming that his energy stores are infinite?
Superman absorbing energy from a neon sign is in no way superior to Surfer absorbing energy from the sun. It just proves that Superman's writers are a little more creative.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Define "environment."In case you didn't know, radio signals aren't sound waves.
Cyborg tried to disperse Superman's energy, not absorb it.
I haven't read any comics involving Energy Superman, so I can't say that I have seen him run out of energy. That doesn't mean that he can't run out. Are you assuming that his energy stores are infinite?
Superman absorbing energy from a neon sign is in no way superior to Surfer absorbing energy from the sun. It just proves that Superman's writers are a little more creative.
Exactly, I know you haven't read on energy supes because you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
Radio Signals arent soundwaves...True, but since not everybody will understand that. I simplified it.
Now look at the pic... if you don't know what "environment" is..then nobody can help you. Your pic doesnt even show surfer..and u couldnt even tell snoop what issue it was.
Supes absorbs a neon sign and uses the energy to teleport. Supes reserves are no more infinite than Surfers, but he can use any environment and a lot more things to "recharge" including kinetic energy from his own fight.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Surfer is saying that his power is returning to him. He's obviously absorbing energy. What did he do to become so weak?Here's Surfer, Avalon.
Thank you. Snoops shows that he gets energy back slowly though..and this is still the sun, Supes can use any environment with standard electromagnetic or kinetic energy which is practically anywhere.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Thank you. Snoops shows that he gets energy back slowly though..and this is still the sun, not any environment with standard electromagnetic or kinetic energy.
Define "environment"
The sun is full of electromagnetic energy, and kinetic energy.
Superman absorbing static electrical energy from a cloud is very creative on his writer's part, but it's nothing Surfer couldn't do.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Exactly, I know you haven't read on energy supes because you clearly don't know what you are talking about.Radio Signals arent soundwaves...True, but since not everybody will understand that. I simplified it.
Now look at the pic... if you don't know what "environment" is..then nobody can help you. Your pic doesnt even show surfer..and u couldnt even tell snoop what issue it was.
Supes absorbs a neon sign and uses the energy to teleport. Supes reserves are no more infinite than Surfers, but he can use any environment and a lot more things to "recharge" including kinetic energy from his own fight.
You haven't read up on Surfer, and you only know what you've seen in crossovers, and the scans I and kgkg have provided.
Can you provide an instance of Superman absorbing kinetic energy?
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Define "environment"The sun is full of electromagnetic energy, and kinetic energy.
Superman absorbing static electrical energy from a cloud is very creative on his writer's part, but it's nothing Surfer couldn't do.
What is around Supes? Sky and Clouds. Stop playing ignorant. I know you see the scan. He took energy from clouds.
The sun is full of both..yes, you are correct, but is Surfer doing the same thing supes is doing...absorbing it on the fly nowhere near the sun from any nearby objects? Nope.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
You haven't read up on Surfer, and you only know what you've seen in crossovers, and the scans I and kgkg have provided.Can you provide an instance of Superman absorbing kinetic energy?
Why dont you provide something besides questions? I know you want your boy to win, but so far havent shown anything that would show victory or given any good examples. My posts have scans or issue numbers.
Superman's Energy Absorption ability was his ability to turn any energy he absorbed into energy he could then use for other purposes. For example he was able to absorb the momentum of moving object that passed through him, thereby slowing down the object/person (as seen in AOS #547) and converting that absorbed energy for his own use (as seen in JLA Secret Files #1, page 35). Or as seen in Action #739, he absorbed the heat energy from a burning building and converted it into a "dynamic energy web" which he used to hold the structure together. Similarly, (in JLA #12, page 8) Superman was able to absorb the entire energy output from an explosion he was in, except for the light it emitted, thereby saving himself and the Martian Manhunter, but fooling his enemies who thought him destroyed in the explosion.
There you go. Happy reading!!
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What is around Supes? Sky and Clouds. Stop playing ignorant. I know you see the scan. He took energy from clouds.The sun is full of both..yes, you are correct, but is Surfer doing the same thing supes is doing...absorbing it on the fly nowhere near the sun from any nearby objects? Nope.
That doesnt mean he cant do it Avvy he very well can. Even magneto can do that and his energy manipulating skills pale to surfers
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What is around Supes? Sky and Clouds. Stop playing ignorant. I know you see the scan. He took energy from clouds.The sun is full of both..yes, you are correct, but is Surfer doing the same thing supes is doing...absorbing it on the fly nowhere near the sun from any nearby objects? Nope.
No one's playing stupid. An environment is simply surroundings. The sun is an environment.
Surfer is obviously very far from the star, in my scan, considering it's relative size. Superman is in the Earth's atmosphere, and is no more than a few miles from a group clouds. Superman's feat is in no way superior to the Silver Surfers'.
Originally posted by Cosmic CubeI never saw Surfer drain energy from clouds before.Surfer is obviously very far from the star, considering it's relative size. Superman is in the Earth's atmosphere, and is no more than a few miles from a group clouds. Superman's feat is in no way superior to the Silver Surfers'.
But hey you never know.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
No one's playing stupid. An environment is simply surroundings. The sun is an environment.Surfer is obviously very far from the star, considering it's relative size. Superman is in the Earth's atmosphere, and is no more than a few miles from a group clouds. Superman's feat is in no way superior to the Silver Surfers'.
Then why wasnt he able to do anything in Snoops scan? He should have easily and quickly powered up there. Show proof that Surfer can do the same.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
That doesnt mean he cant do it Avvy he very well can. Even magneto can do that and his energy manipulating skills pale to surfers
I know Mags and Surfer can use the energy around them, but Im asking for proof that they can power up with it instead of just wield it.