silver surfer vs energy superman

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I know Mags and Surfer can use the energy around them, but Im asking for proof that they can power up with it instead of just wield it.

If you read the surfers comics or even take a look at his bio you'll see he can tap into the ambient energy around him. SS can do it for a variety of effects. Thats common SS knowledge why are you nitpicking on such a minor point in this debate when you havent addressed the fact that energy supes is very susceptiblw to radiation and in comparison to SS he's very inexperienced. Whether he can or cant be drained himself is debatable, because no energy wielder/manipulator of Surfers magnitude has tried it. Also surfer culd very well contain him. You've read the comics he's featured in and seen the level of person who's done it to ebergy supes in the past. Surfer could do it as well. SS wins this.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Then why wasnt he able to do anything in Snoops scan? He should have easily and quickly powered up there. Show proof that Surfer can do the same.

A spark of energy from a cloud isn't enough to fully recharge the Silver Surfer. He was drawing energy from the environment. Notice that he says that his power was slowly returning to him.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I never saw Surfer drain energy from clouds before.

But hey you never know.

Doesn't mean he can't. He can absorb electrical energy. What did Surfer do to make himself so weak in the comic your scan is from?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I know Mags and Surfer can use the energy around them, but Im asking for proof that they can power up with it instead of just wield it.

Surfer is absorbing energy from the environment in snoop's scan.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If you read the surfers comics or even take a look at his bio you'll see he can tap into the ambient energy around him. SS can do it for a variety of effects. Thats common SS knowledge why are you nitpicking on such a minor point in this debate when you havent addressed the fact that energy supes is very susceptiblw to radiation and in comparison to SS he's very inexperienced. Whether he can or cant be drained himself is debatable, because no energy wielder/manipulator of Surfers magnitude has tried it. Also surfer culd very well contain him. You've read the comics he's featured in and seen the level of person who's done it to ebergy supes in the past. Surfer could do it as well. SS wins this.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube

What did Surfer do to make himself so weak in the comic your scan is from?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube

Surfer is absorbing energy from the environment in snoop's scan.

Oh wait your assuming this. 😱

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thats common SS knowledge why are you nitpicking on such a minor point in this debate when you havent addressed the fact that energy supes is very susceptiblw to radiation

Courtesy of the 2005 FF Handbook.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
A spark of energy from a cloud isn't enough to fully recharge the Silver Surfer. He was drawing energy from the environment. Notice that he says that his power was slowly returning to him.

Doesn't mean he can't. He can absorb electrical energy. What did Surfer do to make himself so weak in the comic your scan is from?

Surfer is absorbing energy from the environment in snoop's scan.

Cube, the pic doesnt show or say anything about surfer taking any energy from the environment. It just shows Surfer tired and complaining about 'aches'

Even in the pic that has him absorbing energy from the star...he isnt draining it...just powering up.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I already answered this.

Where does it say that?

Oh wait your assuming this. 😱

Surfer has healed people on the brink of death with no problem. That doesn't sound very credible.

Surfer says "My power cosmic returns to me all to slowly!" It's a known fact that the Silver Surfer absorbs ambient energy.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea but he said it comes back all too slowly. 😉

He tried to heal a wounded person I believe.

Post a scan of this, please.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Cube, the pic doesnt show or say anything about surfer taking any energy from the environment. It just shows Surfer tired and complaining about 'aches'

Surfer is saying that his power is returning to him. Surfer absorbs ambient energy, That's general knowledge for anyone who reads his comics.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Even in the pic that has him absorbing energy from the star...he isnt draining it...just powering up.

You know that this statement doesn't make any sense. He is draining energy from the star.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If you read the surfers comics or even take a look at his bio you'll see he can tap into the ambient energy around him. SS can do it for a variety of effects. Thats common SS knowledge why are you nitpicking on such a minor point in this debate when you havent addressed the fact that energy supes is very susceptiblw to radiation and in comparison to SS he's very inexperienced. Whether he can or cant be drained himself is debatable, because no energy wielder/manipulator of Surfers magnitude has tried it. Also surfer culd very well contain him. You've read the comics he's featured in and seen the level of person who's done it to ebergy supes in the past. Surfer could do it as well. SS wins this.

Who told you Energy supes is susceptible to radiation?
He would only have problems if all he did was keep absorbing and absorbing and didnt use the energy for anything. Even his limit in absorption was never stated. SS would have to same problem at some point himself. Supes could also let energy harmlessly pass through him if he wanted. Epoch blasted him with energy from a red sun and it didnt even make supes flinch.

Supes can also contain surfer in a field if he wanted to. He very well has the means to do it..while if surfer tried to contain Supes, he could simply teleport.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Surfer is saying that his power is returning to him. Surfer absorbs ambient energy, That's general knowledge for anyone who reads his comics.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube

Post a scan of this, please.

Maybe tomorrow.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Surfer is saying that his power is returning to him. Surfer absorbs ambient energy, That's general knowledge for anyone who reads his comics.

You know that this statement doesn't make any sense. He is draining energy from the star.

Let me clear that up. I meant to say that he is absorbing energy from the star to get a boost, but he didnt drain it completely.

The other pic still does not say he is getting the energy from the environment. For sake of argument though, I will take your word on this one. Even with that..it is still very slow.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Why do you always leave out the part where he says "all too slowly"?

That was actually the first time left out that part. Stop nit-picking.

Can you provide a scan of exactly what made Surfer so weak, or at least an issue number?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I just put the damm thing away Im not going to go dig it out again.

Maybe tomorrow.

Excuses. Sounds like another half-truth to me.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
That was actually the first time left out that part. Stop being so critical.

Can you provide a scan of exactly what made Surfer so weak, or at least an issue number?

SS can also charge up by going to the sun ( in sec) and he doesn’t get weak just like that.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
For example he was able to absorb the momentum of moving object that passed through him, thereby slowing down the object/person (as seen in AOS #547)

Could you be a little more specific on this one? Sorry, I can't find any info on it.

Originally posted by kgkg
I think that was when he tried to break G's force shield.

SS can also charge up by going to the sun ( in sec) and he doesn’t get weak just like that.

Snoop says that he thinks that Surfer was trying to heal someone. Why Surfer would be lying on the ground after trying to heal someone is beyond me. He owns the comic. Go figure.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Stop nit-picking.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Could you be a little more specific on this one? Sorry, I can't find any info on it.

Supes has the ability to steal the kinetic energy of things that go through him.

For example bullets fall to the ground, and punches slow down. He can store the energy and put it to other uses later.

Come on, you have to admit thats a cool ability.

I liked the energy supes. He had so many possibilities...too bad the media and people started to complain and they changed him back to normal so quickly.

Originally posted by kgkg
I think that was when he tried to break G's force shield.

Guys I own alot of comics and I actually own all Surfer solo comics too.