So basically, without his powers, he's like Tombstone, but he's a boyscout that has to adjust to feeling pain, thinking, healing and reacting much more slowly than usual.
Frank would pwned him. One good kick to the nuts and Clark feels a pain he's never felt before, and Frank can exert enough force to break a powerless Kal El's neck. Batman manages to toss Supes around on occasion with his powers, I think Frank can manage to do it sans his powers completely.
[And please, no one use that Superman 2 reference in this thread where powerless Clark (Christopher Reeves; RIP) got slapped up by a drunken redneck in a diner. ]
Originally posted by colossus17Then punisher breaks his nose with 5 times the force it would take. (Doesn't take that much force)Kent still dies.
you idiots even with no powers clark still has a skin which is 3-4 times denser then human skin.like asgardians.also he should still be able to lift 1-2 tons....becasue krypton had a stronger gravity....and its part of his body's structure.....
It's been stated before that krypton is roughly comparably to the size of jupiter. Now Jupiter's gravity is roughly 2.5 times earth norm. For example I weigh approximately 165 lbs on jupiter I would weigh roughly 417. Now If his strength levels are the equivalent to an earth human he should be quite a bit stronger. Clark is a large individual a human of that weight and tone would be lifting 400-500 lbs. But he is more dense than a normal person so he should be able to lift over 1300 lbs. This is all theory but it makes some sense.
Originally posted by ChaoticReignThen it's like Frank fighting the Kingpin with less skill. Frank wins. Yaaaaaaaaaaaay!
It's been stated before that krypton is roughly comparably to the size of jupiter. Now Jupiter's gravity is roughly 2.5 times earth norm. For example I weigh approximately 165 lbs on jupiter I would weigh roughly 417. Now If his strength levels are the equivalent to an earth human he should be quite a bit stronger. Clark is a large individual a human of that weight and tone would be lifting 400-500 lbs. But he is more dense than a normal person so he should be able to lift over 1300 lbs. This is all theory but it makes some sense.
I don't think it's as lopsided as it's being made out to be. Superman has over 10,000 years of fighting experience, as well as formal training by people like Mongul, Batman and Wonder Woman. Granted, some of his formal training is in the more effective use of his superpowers, but a lot of that is just hand-to-hand combat. If held true to form, Clark should be a mighty hand-to-hand combatant with or without powers.
I'll break with the pact and say Clark takes this. He's not just a noob with godly powers...he's a warrior in every sense of the word.
Yeah, 10,000 years. It was during a storyline where he helped Wonder Woman fight some war that lasted 10,000 years. It was nothing but battle after battle. At the end of the battle, he was returned to the precise point in time he was taken. Lois noticed there was something a bit different about him...more age in his eyes, but that's about it.
You'd figure that 10,000 years of combat should surpass 10 or so years by Frank, even if Frank did have formal training. Formal training in the end pales in comparison to perrsonal experience...it's personal