Clark Kent(No Powers) VS. Punisher(No Weapons) Hand to Hand Combat!!!

Yeah, but that's also where Frank's insanity comes into play and he rips Clark's jugular out. All of Batman's training doesn't stop the Joker from being the perfect foil to him. Determination and insanity can compensate for willpower. Frank's taken shotgun blast to the chest, high caliber riot gun rounds (rubber bullets) to the face, baseball bats and bricks to the head and body, hit by speeding vehicles, and kept coming. Frank's no slouch when it comes to will, he does wage a one man war on crime against all odds (both good and bad) and won't let up.

And I still don't see where 10,000 years of utilizing super strength, super speed, heat vision, microscopic vision, a biomatrix forcefield, super immunity and the rest of the Superhero Power Mix #17 Kal El was blessed with will help him in this situation. All the things he did in that time period are not available to him in this scenario.

A 10,000 year war with death and destruction happening all around you has a funny way of toughening you. And Superman wasn't fighting weak people for 10,000 years...he was fighting forces powerful enough to blow him away. Just having super powers isn't enough against that kind of power, you have to have strong training, the ability to fight close quarters, the ability to use stealth, the ability to disarm thousands soldiers with Punisher level training but Wonder Woman level power. That's why he had to train with WW during that war to keep up. He wouldn't have survived if he just flew around shooting people with heat vision. He became a lot more than that - tougher, wilier, more resourceful - those are all things that would help against Punisher.

Vietnam, Korea, and Special Forces missions in South America, Indonesia and the East Indies were no walks in the park either, and Frank didn't have any super powers to fall back upon, just wits and skills. What's 10,000 years to a being that can move at light speeds, process millions of bits of info in a moment, has an ever recycling forcefield, and is also immortal?

Nothing at all.

Frank's got plenty of guile, experience, and killer instinct to take Clark out.

Frank is a cold hearted killer.

Cold blooded. [RIP Rick James]

Clark is not.

One moment of indecision, hesitation, or 'weakness' can be the difference between life and death.

Frank won't hesitate.

[crack]

Dead Kryptonian.

'Nam? Korea?!? Damn, Frank is an old dude.

those battlefields for a few years at a time pale in comparison to an even larger scale planetary war that lasts 10,000 years. Falling back on superpowers means less when everybody has superpowers. It applies differently, but you still have to use the same guile and skill. Heat vision is analogous to having a rifle, invulnerability is analogous to a bulletproof vest. Strength is matched by the other warriors there. To beat that volume of opponents close or greater than your power levels over that long a period, you HAVE to be a great H2H combatant with an incredible will to survive. There's no other rational way to survive for that long.

I'm not sure what the current origin is (always seems to change), but Superman gained his powers over time. He spent a long time as a regular human, which is how he knows whether he should have "trouble" opening certain jars, or pushing broken down cars. Combine that with his various red sun adventures and he knows how to function as a human.

Ruthlessness is a big factor, but don't expect Clark to go too easy on Frank. He partially snapped Zod II's neck and put a sleeper hold on Mongul. He's definitely got finishing skills.