Britain wins 2012 olympic bid...

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
Which is sad, because New York was the best candidate city. From moving around 16 million people daily to having more money than God, New York could pull it off and make money on the venture. Not to mention that New York City has never hosted an Olympics, yet it's one of, if not the most, multi-cultural cities in the world.

I'm glad that New York didn't get the Games, but it was definitely the best city to host them.

i think new yorks downfall was the problems in securing their oroginal plans for new stadiums which were rejected by new yorks planners...something like that

London have over 60% of their facilities already in place...wimbledon for the tennis included...and the millenium dome for the gymnastics...that god its getting used for something...after spending nigh on a billion pounds on it for it to lie empty for the past 4 years really annoys me

the benefits to London will hopefully be the upgrading of the Underground which is currently horrendous

New York - Not to mention the fact that too many people would be bitching about having so many Olympics in the USA in such a short time span:

Atlanta 1996
Salt Lake City 2002

That would be three out of the last nine (I think) Olympiads (summer & winter).

Originally posted by botankus
New York - Not to mention the fact that too many people would be bitching about having so many Olympics in the USA in such a short time span:

Atlanta 1996
Salt Lake City 2002

That would be three out of the last nine (I think) Olympiads (summer & winter).

true...true...totally forgot about that

Originally posted by jaden101
i think new yorks downfall was the problems in securing their oroginal plans for new stadiums which were rejected by new yorks planners...something like that

London have over 60% of their facilities already in place...wimbledon for the tennis included...and the millenium dome for the gymnastics...that god its getting used for something...after spending nigh on a billion pounds on it for it to lie empty for the past 4 years really annoys me

the benefits to London will hopefully be the upgrading of the Underground which is currently horrendous

No, we have everything already built with the exception of an Olympic stadium. After the West Side Stadium was rejected, less than a week later NYC approved an Olympic stadium in Queens. And by 2012, the Freedom Tower will be finished and would have made a terrific backdrop for the games.

I think the Atlanta and Salt Lake City games are what killed us. If the voting was simply of the merit of the city, the US would host the Olympics every time. And if you go back to 1972, the only cities to make decent money on the Olympics were Los Angeles, Atlanta, and Sydney. All other cities lost money.

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
No, we have everything already built with the exception of an Olympic stadium. After the West Side Stadium was rejected, less than a week later NYC approved an Olympic stadium in Queens. And by 2012, the Freedom Tower will be finished and would have made a terrific backdrop for the games.

I think the Atlanta and Salt Lake City games are what killed us. If the voting was simply of the merit of the city, the US would host the Olympics every time. And if you go back to 1972, the only cities to make decent money on the Olympics were Los Angeles, Atlanta, and Sydney. All other cities lost money.

cool...didn't know that...bloody anti US british press
😉

Originally posted by jaden101
cool...didn't know that...bloody anti US british press
😉

Eh. You know how each city talks so much about already having what is needed. The buildings are there, just intense construction to make them pretty in time. A couple of new subway lines need to be built, but the venues are there if NYC wanted to keep costs low.

I feel bad for London. The Olympics really suck for residents of the city with all the construction and influx of millions of people. I went through it in Atlanta, and I'd prefer not to go through it again. Funny note: in many polls among NYC residents, only 38-42% of actual residents wanted the bloody thing.

it shouldnt actually be that bad...the area of east london where the renovations will be biggest are really run down with huge derelict and unused old industrial sites etc

and lord knows london really needs the improved transport system

the only thing that annoys me about it is the estimated cost

the greece olympics were estimated at £750,000,000 and ended up costing £3,000,000,000....the London olympics are estimated at £5,000,000,000...so god knows what the cost will be

the Scottish parliment was estimated at £47,000,000 and ended up costing over half a billion...and the millenium dome cost something like £900,000,000

Funny how england can afford to shell out for equipment to host a sport event, but cant spare more cash for poor countires like africa.

Sport takes place before poverty it seems

Hey we ARE splashing out.

Hmmmm maybe I will take a trip to London. I am feeling the itch for a good overseas adventure.

Originally posted by ChickinMeat
Funny how england can afford to shell out for equipment to host a sport event, but cant spare more cash for poor countires like africa.

Sport takes place before poverty it seems

You can hardly put them in the same boat...

Britain have done much to help poverty and will do more...

Originally posted by ChickinMeat
Funny how england can afford to shell out for equipment to host a sport event, but cant spare more cash for poor countires like africa.

Sport takes place before poverty it seems

Why should England feel obligated to suport Africa? God, I am so sick of hearing people criticize different countries for "not giving enough." How many homeless people have you given $100 to in the last week? I'm sure the answer to that is none at all.

Originally posted by ChickinMeat
Funny how england can afford to shell out for equipment to host a sport event, but cant spare more cash for poor countires like africa.

Sport takes place before poverty it seems

Are you stupid!!!

we are probely giving more then any other country.
Our Prime Minster Tony Blair is trying to sort out debt at the G* meetings.

It was OUR country which orginised Live Eight.

Originally posted by ash007
Are you stupid!!!

we are probely giving more then any other country.
Our Prime Minster Tony Blair is trying to sort out debt at the G* meetings.

It was OUR country which orginised Live Eight.

Actually, England is 4th behind the US, Japan, and France respectively, but still one of the top contributors in the world according to the 2004 numbers.

Poor Russia, will they never win another Olympics.... and I think London is a great place for them, I look forward to that.

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
Actually, England is 4th behind the US, Japan, and France respectively, but still one of the top contributors in the world according to the 2004 numbers.

http://millenniumindicators.un.org/unsd/mi/mi_series_results.asp?rowID=651&fID=r10&cgID=

and, even more interesting :

http://millenniumindicators.un.org/unsd/mi/mi_series_results.asp?rowID=650&fID=r10&cgID=

We're drifting...Once again, TOPIC people !

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I hoped they would be held in Paris... could make a peek at some tournaments there and try to do some sightseeing, it's been years since I last been there

Ah yes, the city of lights. Still, you could always go to London and then go on a bit of a jaunt across the Channel for some Parisian recreation.

pfft, I know London like the back of my hand by now...

hey! look at that! a freckle!