Originally posted by badabing
This debate can go on forever. They are both top tier combatants and they both use claws/gadgets in their battles. Stripped of their extras, there is no real way to prove a winner of a majority of fights.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Batman beat a mindcontrolled Shiva... nice work 🙄
First of all, the whole mind-controlled thing still remains to be speculation. Second of all, even if she was mind-controlled, he still blocked and parried all of her lightningfast combos like they were nothin. That's more than Wolverine could've done to her if she was mind-controlled and if he didn't have any powers.
Originally posted by batdude123
First of all, the whole mind-controlled thing still remains to be speculation. Second of all, even if she was mind-controlled, he still blocked and parried all of her lightningfast combos like they were nothin. That's more than Wolverine could've done to her if she was mind-controlled and if he didn't have any powers.
Originally posted by capt it up
ur speculation mean jack.
shang-chi is many many many many many many tiems faster then shiva
Once again, you're stating when Wolverine used a healing factor, enhanced senses, and enhanced speed to win a fight. That doesn't necesarrily constitute that he's the more skilled fighter of the two. And besides, Shiva is just as good if not better at fighting than Shang Chi without him amping his stats.
Originally posted by batdude123
Once again, you're stating when Wolverine used a healing factor, enhanced senses, and enhanced speed to win a fight. That doesn't necesarrily constitute that he's the more skilled fighter of the two. And besides, Shiva is just as good if not better at fighting than Shang Chi without him amping his stats.
Originally posted by capt it up
shiva is not as good at all.
also again wolverine oen that fight from clearl skills.honestly this is getting annoying. Ur only defense is since wolverine ahs his powers then it unusable as a fighting skills feat. dude I like u but ur getitng redicules here.
u can not ahve duoble standereds either bats with his suit on does not count as real feat and wolverine with his powers does not count as real feats or both ways coutns as feat there no in between
How does Bats with a suit on not count as a feat? Considering he doesn't use it as a weapon.
Originally posted by batdude123
How does Bats with a suit on not count as a feat? Considering he doesn't use it as a weapon.
Originally posted by Soleran
This is Wolveirne without ANY enhancements thats senses as well, leave them at the door.Wolverine isn't anywhere Batman level as just a plain ole human.........no claws, no healing, no enhanced senses, no physical enhancements. Wolverine is able to do what he does because of his mutations.
I disagree even without his powers all that training them years would eventually put him in Prime condition
Originally posted by Nova Angel
I disagree even without his powers all that training them years would eventually put him in Prime condition
Just because you train everyday doesn't make you the best. Which is why I constantly say Wolverine is good, however its his mutations with his training that makes him excellent.
If training were the end all how in the hell did Wolverine beat Ogun........................yeah.
Batman isn't just someone who just trains but someone who applies his skills constantly because he doesn't have the luxury of taking extra hits or using his enhanced senses for balance strength and agility. That would be a Wolverine skill set.
Originally posted by Soleran
This is Wolveirne without ANY enhancements thats senses as well, leave them at the door.Wolverine isn't anywhere Batman level as just a plain ole human.........no claws, [B]no healing
, no enhanced senses, no physical enhancements. Wolverine is able to do what he does because of his mutations. [/B]
If there is not Healing Factor then Wolverine lose
Originally posted by Soleran
Just because you train everyday doesn't make you the best. Which is why I constantly say Wolverine is good, however its his mutations with his training that makes him excellent.If training were the end all how in the hell did Wolverine beat Ogun........................yeah.
Batman isn't just someone who just trains but someone who applies his skills constantly because he doesn't have the luxury of taking extra hits or using his enhanced senses for balance strength and agility. That would be a Wolverine skill set.
True in that sense. Wolvie did beat Ogun because of his mutant abilities. But, it was also due to his unpredictability in battle when he went berserk what I'm trying to say is that Wolvie in just prime condition and fighting skill would be enough for The Bat
Originally posted by Nova Angel
True in that sense. Wolvie did beat Ogun because of his mutant abilities. But, it was also due to his unpredictability in battle when he went berserk what I'm trying to say is that Wolvie in just prime condition and fighting skill would be enough for The Bat
How so, Wolverine has no mutant advantages in this fight. Show me how Wolverine with no enhancments takes on Batman who has never had mutant enhancements and constantly battles metahumans.