Wolverine Vs. Batman (NO WEAPONS)

Originally posted by capt it up
wolverine aplies his skills every day. u are assume batman apllies them more which is not true. since wolverine more prone to go hand to hand vs some one.
also wolverine tends to fight assassin and ninja and master of combat much mroe then batman on an avegerage baises.

Nope what I am saying is that Wolverine's h2h skills are best used in conjunction with his mutant powers. Without them Wolverine I feel isn't exceptional in h2h he is just very good.

Where as Batman has never had mutant healing and senses and such so his training and fighting style reflects that, so in a combat arena with no enhancements Batman would win as he does it like that all the time.

Wolverine takes Batman h2h. Not like it would be easy and plain win, but he would win 7/10. Batman does have the speed that is a match for Wolvies, but healing factor and exp is an advantage for Logan.

this is without any powers Samishe, with powers of course Wolverine should win.

Originally posted by Soleran
Nope what I am saying is that Wolverine's h2h skills are best used in conjunction with his mutant powers. Without them Wolverine I feel isn't exceptional in h2h he is just very good.

Where as Batman has never had mutant healing and senses and such so his training and fighting style reflects that, so in a combat arena with no enhancements Batman would win as he does it like that all the time.

Originally posted by capt it up
yes which is why I will not argue with u about it I was asking if the dude want my oppion

I don't want to start a fight in the thread so just pm me ur reasons.

Originally posted by batdude123
I just want to say one little thing, so don't spark this into an all out war again. Even though we all can agree that Wolverine wins the majority of the fights he enters, he still gets battered around some. My point is, even in fights, although it may not seem like it, Wolverine always has to rely on his mutant powers to get him through a fight. Batman doesn't have the luxury of a healing factor so he has to fight smarter and with better skill than that. Take those powers away from Wolverine, and all those baterings he takes, wouldn't last very long. 😉 But under normal circumstances, Wolverine would win. And that's all I'm gonna say for now.

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Originally posted by Soleran
this is without any powers Samishe, with powers of course Wolverine should win.

Without ANY powers??? You mean no healing factor, no enhanced strength?

This case Logan is f!@ked and f!@ked badly.

Yes and what I am presenting is that Wolverine wins because of his mutations not because of his inherent fighting ability.

Even without his gear, Batman doesn't have the mutations to fall back a punch hurts him, a punch to Wolverine is nothing.

Hence on an equal playing field Wolverine doesn't have what it takes to oust Batman. Wolverine's fighting ability is based on alot of his mutations..............just like the last Silver Samurai fight, he let himself get stabbed. Try doing that without any mutations🙂

Originally posted by Soleran
Yes and what I am presenting is that Wolverine wins because of his mutations not because of his inherent fighting ability.

Even without his gear, Batman doesn't have the mutations to fall back a punch hurts him, a punch to Wolverine is nothing.

Hence on an equal playing field Wolverine doesn't have what it takes to oust Batman. Wolverine's fighting ability is based on alot of his mutations..............just like the last Silver Samurai fight, he let himself get stabbed. Try doing that without any mutations🙂

Originally posted by batdude123
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Originally posted by capt it up
again with otu hsi mutantions he not gunna let him self take thsoe kidna hits he will know not too. he has ahd his powers taken befor and he simply adapted too it.
ur whole thign sayign wolevrien elts him self take hits that why batman will win is a weak arguement at best.
batmanw ith out his suit if he hti he gunan hrut a lot more and also batman always relies on equiptment. so please if u wanan start showing rpove of batman fighting some one with out using eqiptment be my guest i start showing pics of wolevrine owning people with out taking any hits.

Its got to be an absolutely unenhanced Wolverine to prove anything, no enhanced senses, healing and other abilities.

Wolverine's senses boost his fighting ability as well.............

Originally posted by capt it up
truce is off now

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Originally posted by Soleran
Its got to be an absolutely unenhanced Wolverine to prove anything, no enhanced senses, healing and other abilities.

Wolverine's senses boost his fighting ability as well.............

also like I said befor batman fights normal guys or slightly enchanced people while wolverien fight sueprenchanced people or people on his level. to say batman needs his skill mroe is not a true fact ebcuase the people he battleing don't hold a candle to what wolevrien ahs to fight.

also wolverine has survived qutie fine with out his powers and he still battle people he battle when he had his powers

Originally posted by capt it up
again bats relies on his eqiptment to help him fight. so to say wolverien relies on his abilties is pritty much viod.

also like I said befor batman fights normal guys or slightly enchanced people while wolverien fight sueprenchanced people or people on his level. to say batman needs his skill mroe is not a true fact ebcuase the people he battleing don't hold a candle to what wolevrien ahs to fight.

also wolverine has survived qutie fine with out his powers and he still battle people he battle when he had his powers

Okay, the reason Wolverine fights stronger characters is because he's got adamantium bones, claws, a healing factor, fantastic senses, enhanced speed, enhanced strength, enhanced agility, etc... Batman doesn't have that kind of gift that Logan does. Batman doesn't RELY on his equipment in a fight anyway. He uses them just in case he really needs them. They are used more as a back up to his h2h skills. I'm sorry but Wolverine doesn't show the same skill that Batman does. The reason you see him win most of his battles is because of his mutant powers.

Originally posted by batdude123
Okay, the reason Wolverine fights stronger characters is because he's got adamantium bones, claws, a healing factor, fantastic senses, enhanced speed, enhanced strength, enhanced agility, etc... Batman doesn't have that kind of gift that Logan does. Batman doesn't RELY on his equipment in a fight anyway. He uses them just in case he really needs them. They are used more as a back up to his h2h skills. I'm sorry but Wolverine doesn't show the same skill that Batman does. The reason you see him win most of his battles is because of his mutant powers.

i thought u two agreed to make it a tie.

Originally posted by capt it up
u dont see my piont. batman fight human guys.
wolevrien fights superhumans. wolevrien fightign gusy in his league who are top fights while batman fighting guys in his league who are top fights. if u look away logans would not matter ebcuase he fights people who are amazaing skill but have powers.
while batman fight people who are just skileld but with no powers on average.
batman also uses his equiptment in fights to help while wolverine may uses him powers to help him but it the same concept both uses some thign to help them.
name people who batman fight that are skilled fight pelase name them and I will show u what i mean
by the way ur right wolverine does not show the same skills, he shows far better ones.

Far better?? 🙄 Sure, if you mean winning a fight out of pure insanity rather than skill. Wolverine always rushes in and gets smacked around even though he still wins the fight. This is where his mutant powers help him. Like when he let Silver Samurai stab him in the stomach. 😉 Batman has beat Nightwing, Solomon Grundy, Lady Shiva, Katana, he beat Luthor in his powered up suit with no gadgets, just pure skill, etc... Batman has beaten up powered up characters with just one touch of a pressure point and they were knocked out for days. When has Wolverine ever shown that kind of skill? Batman knows a variety of moves that could take out Wolverine in seconds. In particular, the Tiger Fist, which is an extremely powerful move that only he and one other person in the world know about. Batman also knows Chi and can become one with his surroundings and can amp his stats as well. His shown to be able to do things that are impossible to normal humans. Like kicking down a tree with just one kick. Also with his Chi, Batman has been taught to ignore physical pain as well. His skills have been said to be like a river of life, flowing from one move to another constantly. From H'Sien Tan he also learnt a way to control himself, not just his emotions but his body. Bruce is capable of, instinctually, command his body to stop bleeding, force healing on himself and even more importantly, he is able to ignore the toll exhaustion and the lack of sleep inflicts on him. He also adapts to any situation he’s in. If he can’t find a way to conquer something, then he’ll find another way to do it. Wolverine just rushes into a fight and just wants to beat the hell out of you. He throws skill right out the window whenever he fights.

Wolverine has also gotten beat by such characters like Daredevil and Elektra. Now I know you're gonna yell "PIS" on those situations, but it's happened. My point is, he wins his fights with brute force instead of skill.

Originally posted by batdude123
Far better?? 🙄 Sure, if you mean winning a fight out of pure insanity rather than skill. Wolverine always rushes in and gets smacked around even though he still wins the fight. This is where his mutant powers help him. Like when he let Silver Samurai stab him in the stomach. 😉 Batman has beat Nightwing, Solomon Grundy, Lady Shiva, Katana, he beat Luthor in his powered up suit with no gadgets, just pure skill, etc... Batman has beaten up powered up characters with just one touch of a pressure point and they were knocked out for days. When has Wolverine ever shown that kind of skill? Batman knows a variety of moves that could take out Wolverine in seconds. In particular, the Tiger Fist, which is an extremely powerful move that only he and one other person in the world know about. Batman also knows Chi and can become one with his surroundings and can amp his stats as well. His shown to be able to do things that are impossible to normal humans. Like kicking down a tree with just one kick. Also with his Chi, Batman has been taught to ignore physical pain as well. His skills have been said to be like a river of life, flowing from one move to another constantly. From H'Sien Tan he also learnt a way to control himself, not just his emotions but his body. Bruce is capable of, instinctually, command his body to stop bleeding, force healing on himself and even more importantly, he is able to ignore the toll exhaustion and the lack of sleep inflicts on him. He also adapts to any situation he’s in. If he can’t find a way to conquer something, then he’ll find another way to do it. Wolverine just rushes into a fight and just wants to beat the hell out of you. He throws skill right out the window whenever he fights.

Wolverine has also gotten beat by such characters like Daredevil and Elektra. Now I know you're gonna yell "PIS" on those situations, but it's happened. My point is, he wins his fights with brute force instead of skill.

night wing,lady shova kantana last i checked are human. nuthing special about them ecpt there great fighters.
wolevrien fight iron fist,shang-chi,ogun,stick, ect. all who are superpowered and so u understand what im saying batman fight skilled normal human while wolverine who has powers fights skilled superpowered people so to say wolverine does not use the same skills or betetr becuase he has powers is bullshit becuase he fighting people who are amazaing skilled and have power while batman is not.
grundy are u serous lol the dude an idiot who sucks at fight. wolevrien fight rough-house who a great fighter and has amazaing strength speed durability. also the p[ower diffrence between grundy andd batman is far less then wolverine vs rough-house.

also DDnver beat wolverine. naw enemy of the state ya u notice wolverine was not KO and only regain control of him self if he ahd not wolverine would of gotten right back up. also thats a mind controlled wolverine.
eletra also has never beaten wolverine.

Ohhhhhh gosh Batman would tear him up. In fact, he wouldn't even need to throw a punch probably. He'd let Wolvie work himself up until he got so mad he passed out or had an annurism. It'd be no contest. Batman!!!

The fights you are using and dicussing and attmepting to validate as proof were Wolverine with his mutations ie healing, senses, strength, agility and adamantium. There were times Wolverine's healing slowed but overall he had other mutations to help offset that.

Batman doesn't have combat stories about his healing factor and adamantium skeleton augmenting his durability. Wolverine for this fight gets none of that..............................g'nite Wolverine, Batman is going to put you to bed.