I think Bruce is the better fighter, but at the end he is still human. Wolverine can exert himself at peak levels far, far, far, far, far beyond what Bruce can. And any injury he may sustain will heal immediately. Let's not forget about the adamantium skeleton. It's not looking very good for poor Brucey.
Wolverine 10/10
Originally posted by capt it up
first off u just named a weak version of beserker rage. one with his body does not need is much rest and so on is a very weaker version of a beserker rage so all the crap would do him no could becuase wolverine could simply go beseker. also how abotu some evidence of this crap.
tiger fist wow what a great move not. wolevrien foguth iron fist and iron fist how atatcks that can take class 100 down in a single hit. hell wolverine even stalemated a guy who beat both iron fist and luke cage around liek they were chumps and he also had the iron fist power in him which allowed him to do moves that could Ko wolverine in a hit and sitll wolevrien stalemated him.
did u just go so bias as to say wolverine does not uses any skills? are u serous. hoonestly that like saying batman only uses gadgets and does not know a sword from a axe.
also when has batman ever amped his stats using chi? please lets see some prove of that.
wolverine also let sam stabb hikm in the stomack.night wing,lady shova kantana last i checked are human. nuthing special about them ecpt there great fighters.
wolevrien fight iron fist,shang-chi,ogun,stick, ect. all who are superpowered and so u understand what im saying batman fight skilled normal human while wolverine who has powers fights skilled superpowered people so to say wolverine does not use the same skills or betetr becuase he has powers is bullshit becuase he fighting people who are amazaing skilled and have power while batman is not.
grundy are u serous lol the dude an idiot who sucks at fight. wolevrien fight rough-house who a great fighter and has amazaing strength speed durability. also the p[ower diffrence between grundy andd batman is far less then wolverine vs rough-house.also DDnver beat wolverine. naw enemy of the state ya u notice wolverine was not KO and only regain control of him self if he ahd not wolverine would of gotten right back up. also thats a mind controlled wolverine.
eletra also has never beaten wolverine.
Me post some scans??? Why don't you post some scans of the crap that you're saying. Wolverine beats those guys around because of his MUTANT powers. Take those away from him and he would get his ass beat by any of the guys you mentioned. How many freakin' times do I have to mention that his mutant abilities augment his fighting ability? His senses enhance his balance, speed, agility, etc. His healing factor allows him to take a sh*t load of damage which is exactly what he does, take a sh*t load of damage in all his fights. Take that healing factor away from him and you've got one battered up Wolverine. And simply saying that Wolverine has beaten those guys says nothing to me about his skills. Big deal he's beaten roughouse. First of all, Roughouse is NOWHERE NEAR the fighter that Batman is. I wouldn't even go as far as to say he's a third as good as Batman. All the guys you mentioned Wolverine beating was when he still had his mutant powers. I listed guys Batman has defeated with pure skill and nothing else. Not his equipment or anything. Yes, I know Wolverine has beaten many skilled characters, but he's got powers to augment his fighting skills. It doesn't say much when you state guys that he's beaten when he had his powers. That's like me posting scans of all the guys Batman has beaten with the use of his equipment. Wolverine doesn't show the skill that Batman does. Batman beats guys down with pure skill and nothing else. He only uses his tech. when he cannot overcome an obstacle and that is not very often. Why don't you show me some scans of Wolverine beating somebody up or even for that matter, using an ounce of skill WITHOUT his powers in a fight. Posting scans of Wolverine fighting with his mutant powers is basically pointless since Wolverine doesn't have his powers in this fight. I've named all the guys Batman has defeated on pure skill alone and he doesn't have something to augment his fighting ability like Wolverine does. I've seen Wolverine get hammered with some massive shots from powerful guys before and he wasn't done fighting. That's because of his POWERS. Without his powers, Wolverine would've been toast already by now. He even got judo thrown by Cyclops one time. IN PURE SKILL OF FIGHTING, BATMAN WINS 8/10. PERIOD!!!!!
again u are asking for me to throw out 95% or more of wolverines feats the redicules. what ru asking for is retarded.
also I don't think u see my piont.
batman fights guy who do not ahve powers listen to what im saying.
batman is what say he peakhuman. shiva is only peakhuman as well.
wolverine is enchaned or superhuman wolverine beats shang-chi who is superhuman stats becuase he amps his abilites.
do u understand what im saying here. wolverine fights skilled superhuman who are not only amazaing fighter but have powers. so to throw his feasts out becuase he has his powers is not a correct thing to do.
unlike batman wolverine does not fight human guys he fights superhumans.
u assume wolverien would not be as skilled as batman because he ahs power. ur assumeing wolverien fights guy who batman fights but he does not he fights guys with powers and fighitng skills. so the diffrence is wolverine using his fighting skill to be opponets with equal or greater abilties then him by using his skills.
so if u tooka way his power it would make no diffrence because batman has no power so it would be pritty mcuh no diffrent then wolevrien fighting many of the martial art masters he has punked.
another example batman beats night wing
night wing strong but still human guy while batmans closer to peakhuman.
wolverine beats lady death strike who is andriod who has healing factor who is stronger and faster then peakhuman by a big amount.
so what im saying? batman will show no more skill betaing ngithwing as wolverine does beating lady death strike
Originally posted by capt it up
again u are asking for me to throw out 95% or more of wolverines feats the redicules. what ru asking for is retarded.also I don't think u see my piont.
batman fights guy who do not ahve powers listen to what im saying.batman is what say he peakhuman. shiva is only peakhuman as well.
wolverine is enchaned or superhuman wolverine beats shang-chi who is superhuman stats becuase he amps his abilites.
do u understand what im saying here. wolverine fights skilled superhuman who are not only amazaing fighter but have powers. so to throw his feasts out becuase he has his powers is not a correct thing to do.
unlike batman wolverine does not fight human guys he fights superhumans.
u assume wolverien would not be as skilled as batman because he ahs power. ur assumeing wolverien fights guy who batman fights but he does not he fights guys with powers and fighitng skills. so the diffrence is wolverine using his fighting skill to be opponets with equal or greater abilties then him by using his skills.
so if u tooka way his power it would make no diffrence because batman has no power so it would be pritty mcuh no diffrent then wolevrien fighting many of the martial art masters he has punked.
I understand where you're coming from, but he's never shown the degree of skill that Batman has shown. When you see Wolverine fighting, you usually see an animal rushing in and slashing the hell out of a person. He uses his powers just like anybody with powers would. His senses and his strength and his healing factor augment his fighting ability to the point that makes him excellent. He actually uses his senses as a pre-cog to see what an opponent next move is. he's punked martial arts masters because of exactly that, his powers. I would like for you to please post the most impressive thing that he has done without ANY mutant powers. To show his feats with his powers still with him, is just getting redundant and I realize that Wolverine should be able to beat Batman with his powers. Without any of them, he would get taken out by pure poetry in motion that is Batman. So IMO, Wolverine's ability is not as great as Batman's.
Please, this is simply getting redundant and annoying. We both keep saying the same things, except every time we do, the posts just keep getting longer and longer and longer... I would like to extend the bygons be bygons offer again and say that IMO, Batman wins, and in your opinion, Wolverine wins. And we'll leave it at that. 😉
Originally posted by batdude123
I understand where you're coming from, but he's never shown the degree of skill that Batman has shown. When you see Wolverine fighting, you usually see an animal rushing in and slashing the hell out of a person. He uses his powers just like anybody with powers would. His senses and his strength and his healing factor augment his fighting ability to the point that makes him excellent. He actually uses his senses as a pre-cog to see what an opponent next move is. he's punked martial arts masters because of exactly that, his powers. I would like for you to please post the most impressive thing that he has done without ANY mutant powers. To show his feats with his powers still with him, is just getting redundant and I realize that Wolverine should be able to beat Batman with his powers. Without any of them, he would get taken out by pure poetry in motion that is Batman. So IMO, Wolverine's ability is not as great as Batman's.
Originally posted by Revolver Ocelot
A fist fight? Wolvie without his claws against a man who mastered dozens of deadly martial arts? Honestly, Batman's legacy makes the entire Marvel universe look like poop 😛Wolvie will keep getting tooled, but will keep coming back...
Actually, this is Wolverine without any mutant powers. Nothing. Just the use of his skill.
Originally posted by batdude123
Please, this is simply getting redundant and annoying. We both keep saying the same things, except every time we do, the posts just keep getting longer and longer and longer... I would like to extend the bygons be bygons offer again and say that IMO, Batman wins, and in your opinion, Wolverine wins. And we'll leave it at that. 😉
Wow, I'm gone for 2 days and there's like ten new pages...
Ok I'll toss in another 2 cents.
Batman trained body and mind depending on who we're going by here 10-20 years. Wolverines been alive and trained since what - the mid-nineteenth century?
Here's what I think people may be missing. Batman is obsessed. When he went and trained for those however many years training was the only thing he was focused on. Likewise even since the "end" of his training he's obsessed with fighting crime and improving himself to be able to fight it better.
Wolverine on the other hand - until recently was an amnesiac with bits of memories from a dozen different lives. Now that he remembers everything how much of those lives could be training. This guy wasn't obsessed (he was military for a portion of that century, but not the whole thing). Wolverine actually lived during his long life. He had a life outside of fighting.
Add those two things together and the combined fighting experience of the two is probably a lot closer to even.
so advantages -
experience - even or close to it
strength - toss-up, without powers wolverine would still be damn tough, I mean, he's almost as wide as he is tall and it's all muscle.
speed - Batman, not by enough to matter though
Smarts - Batman by a mile
endurance - wolverine. Even without his healing he's used to the pain
reach - Batman
Angle - Wolverine
Will - Batman, like I said, he's obsessed.
Batman wins 7/10. I think the most important things in a fight are Will and smarts. Then quickness and then the other stuff. Real close match, but Bats has the edge in the important categories.