Regardless if Hector's been Fate for 5 yeas, he has the Helmet which Strange cant remove. Nabu helps him, and with that Hector gains over 10 billion years of knowledge through him. Thats more than Vishanti or any other God that helps Strange unless you can prove otherwise.
Strange mostly mentions Vishanti's or Cytorak's(sp?) name when reciting spells or whatever. Thos are probably thew 2 most powerful "Gods" or "Entities" that helps him. The billion other Gods you mention probably dont compare to those 2 who are most likely more superior than the others.
Ive never senn Strange blast through the ff while its up. Never. If so, can you post a scan of him doing so?
Who says theres no "Chaos Magic" in the MU?
Originally posted by long pig
I wish they would fight, somewhere....sometime! It's been a loooonnggggg held debate on who would win between the two.Mordru wasn't all that powerful, he has some hella weak showings.
Hell yea. It would be a fight that drowns out all others without a doubt imo.
Mordru has also been tonned down over the years. Hes aobut just as powerful as Nabu. Sometimes nore.
Although Yandroth isnt that much powerful either, ans shows many displays of weakness as well. Yet puts up a good battle vs Strange.
Strange says there is no Chaos Magic in the MU.
When asked about Wandas powers, someone mentioned Chaos Magic, Strange said "There is no such thing as Chaos Magic."
There are three Gods of the Vishanti, all are above Nabu. Cyttorak is above or equal to Nabu.
Hell, Shuma groth is above Nabu or at least his equal, same with Dormmamu.
With enough prep, Strange is>Nabu.
Where in the hell did you hear Strange can't shoot blasts while his force field is up? I've never seen Strange go "oh hell! I better drop my shield so i can blast"....c'mon.
He has to be able to shoot through his shields because of his Auto-shield.
He's mentioned his auto-shields that are up at all times, even in a quasar comic when he's suprise attacked by Deathurge, the arrow bounces off his auto-shield that he has up 24/7. It's the same issue he talks about being immune to poison, because he can shunt each molecule of poison away into another dimention.
<<<Its not like the battle is lopside when its Strange vs Fate.I mean they are both the top Magic-wielders in their respective universes.That should be respeced for both sides of the coin>>>>
No, a straight up Strange vs Fate is prefectly equal, but once you start giving Strange prep, especially 10 hours.....he starts entering the invicibility zone.
jrod, were you the guy I was arguing with about Strange's martial arts ability? Something like, you saying he's never been shown as knowing any type of martial arts??
So because Strange says theres no Chaos Magic in the MU, that makes it true? Maybe he's just being naive and cocky because he figures theres not any type of magic that he doesnt know about. Thus if there did exisit a magic branch that he had no knowlege of he'd feel somewhat incomplete.
Fate = Nabu(Lord of Order) = Mordru(Lord of Chaos) You only assume Shuma-Gorath, Dormammu, and Cyttorak is above Nabu.
I never said that i heard that Strange CANT soot from out of the ff. I said that ive never seen him do it. It you have please post a scan.
From what ive seen, an auto sheild goes up when the person is getting attacked by surprise. Like automatic defence. What auto shield is up 24/7? Usually when Strange puts a shield up, you see the aura around him.
And believe me, theres been plenty of times where the auto shield hasnt gone up. If its like that, everyone in this fight has an auto shield up automatically. It just doesnt happen 24/7.
Originally posted by long pig
jrod, were you the guy I was arguing with about Strange's martial arts ability? Something like, you saying he's never been shown as knowing any type of martial arts??
Yup that was me. I believe you said that he was a master at all earthly forms of Martial Arts. Which I strongly doubted. Knowing a bit is one thing, but being a master at all earthly forms is another that has yet to be stated or proven in the comics. Or even the bios for that matter.
Strange has a auto-shield that he uses at all times(unless intentionally left out by the writers)he's talked about it in detail, it's been shown in detail, it's not a shield that pops up, it's always there, in case someone(like deathurge) tries to shoot him while his back is turned.
He has a sleep protection spell that makes it impossible for magical attacks to zero-in and hit him whilst he's asleep.
Of course, it's been shown him being hit by something with his shield down, but so has Flash, no one should be able to hit Flash(Hell, the turtle-man is slower than a normal human and he hit Flash), but they do because the plot needs it.
In these fights, the plots aren't around.
If the people here can create poweful shields, of course they can use them, it's doubtful they can get them up in time because they don't get any type of prep.
Oh, ah yes, but Strange h2h faught and beat Mantis and Black Panther without using magic. He's a martial arts beast! 😈
Chaos magic isn't Catastrophy magic, but they do get confused with each other a lot, that's why it was a big debate between me and some others when Strange told the Avengers that Chaos magic doesn't exist.
He also says Hex's don't exist either.
Now, what exactly is Wanda using to be able to do what she's been doing?? I have an idea that it's something to do with those shards from mephisto. That's why I though House of M stood for house of mephisto at first. But....guess not.
Fate has a great chance against Strange, but not a prepped Strange, no.