60 years since the end of the war

Originally posted by Fionnuala
You are unbelieveable..you don't think someone who has lived through a dictatorship might have a slightly better idea of whether it's a good thing or not than you...and that comment about the school was low...

Don't worry bout it hotstuff, just let him think he's right. After all, my spelling is twice as good as his....that speaks volumes 😉

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav,
you will find scotland has a different educational system to england and Oxford is required to take in less fortunate,and please dont compare your country to mine we are the better in the eyes of the world.

Ancient History and classics are the same thing

I'm sure when your ugly-as-a-dog women (no offense fi baby 😉 ,. you're an exception) scoff at you and make fun of you, it makes you feel all warm inside knowing that you're a brit 👆

~wickerman~

Originally posted by §P0oONY
Oxford is one of the best... If not THE best... university in the world

I believe Oxford s considered to be a good school...and the fees are reasonable..but this is off topic

Originally posted by §P0oONY
Oxford is one of the best... If not THE best... university in the world

I belive that the Us has better ones but Oxbridge is more renownd

but the war

Originally posted by §P0oONY
Nero.... WWII

Big date difference... around a good couple of 1000s of years

I thought you were talking bout WW2 .....oopsies

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
Don't worry bout it hotstuff, just let him think he's right. After all, my spelling is twice as good as his....that speaks volumes 😉

I'm sure when your ugly-as-a-dog women (no offense fi baby 😉 ,. you're an exception) scoff at you and make fun of you, it makes you feel all warm inside knowing that you're a brit 👆

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Bardock42
Possible but I am hppy it didn't...in the first WW I'd cheer for Germany..the second just...no...bad time....🙁

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav,
I belive that the Us has better ones but Oxbridge is more renownd

but the war

Yes the war...I am reading a book were people talk aboot the Germany after the war and how it is still a really weird topic in germany....we can't have objective debates aboot it because of guilt and sometimes even "political corectness" ....

The Wars Please

Originally posted by DeRFmAn
I'm in no way saying I would've like Germany to win I'm just saying that they might have had a chance at Europe. Hell the Americans didn't want anything to do with what was going on. They just wanted to sell supplies to who they thought were on the right side and make a little profit. Funny because most americans feel the same now, govt. not included. They think its our job to police the world. All we did to Iraq is what happened to us on 9/11......which is stir up the hornets nest.

If you're talking about the 2nd WW, you're wrong. Read some books on what FDR did and how he was seen as the saviour of the country's economically decaying state, by pushing funds and people into the war industry. they were VERY interested in the war.

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes the war...I am reading a book were people talk aboot the Germany after the war and how it is still a really weird topic in germany....we can't have objective debates aboot it because of guilt and sometimes even "political corectness" ....

Yeah it is the same in Japan... The Japanese have basically denied their part in history... more so then the Germans. (Who have accepted their part)

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes the war...I am reading a book were people talk aboot the Germany after the war and how it is still a really weird topic in germany....we can't have objective debates aboot it because of guilt and sometimes even "political corectness" ....

It is bizarre such along time has passed really yet the war can be a real touchy subject for some specially Germany did you know a man got arrested for teaching his dog to do the "Hitler" salute

I've always wondered what Germans think about their past. I'm German yet I like my past, not the fact that they have killed so many but they have also done a great many things. When I say I'm German I was born their due to my father being military and I also have the ancestry

Originally posted by §P0oONY
Yeah it is the same in Japan... The Japanese have basically denied their part in history... more so then the Germans. (Who have accepted their part)

I think that's differnt, Germany is scared with that every historical debate is linked to that....you could say we are almost to aware of it...I don't really know aboot Japan but I know that in eastern Germany it wasn't dealt with at all...thats mostly why we still have some problem with Neo-Nazis.....

Originally posted by Wickerman
If you're talking about the 2nd WW, you're wrong. Read some books on what FDR did and how he was seen as the saviour of the country's economically decaying state, by pushing funds and people into the war industry. they were VERY interested in the war.

~wickerman~

I was reading an article about the not so great side of the war ending, particularly for all the soldiers.

You see, the war brought men together, they became like brotehrs. Their lives had meaning, and they believed what they were fighting for. For many, it was the ultimate cause. It was, an exciting time.

Now, sure people bang on about "how can they think that? When the war ended it was great!" but not for everyone. You see, many men came back to jobs they hated, that they didn't believe in, to wives that had betrayed them during their absence, and some came back to nothing at all. I was reading about the staggering amount of depression that occured within many an ex-soldier. For some, the war was their life, and you can kinda tell in the way WWII experiences are often looked upon with fondness. It was an roller coaster ride, full of severe depression and extreme joy.

WWII brought death and hate, yes, but it brought meaning and hope to those who have none. And for some, the war ending was the worst day of their life.

It was a really interesting article.

Originally posted by DeRFmAn
I've always wondered what Germans think about their past. I'm German yet I like my past, not the fact that they have killed so many but they have also done a great many things. When I say I'm German I was born their due to my father being military and I also have the ancestry

well I personally am rather patriotic..I think wee have a great history...its just a touchy subject, patriotism in Germany could easily be linked to the Third Reich.....

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav,
It is bizarre such along time has passed really yet the war can be a real touchy subject for some specially Germany did you know a man got arrested for teaching his dog to do the "Hitler" salute

Hmm I didn't know that.....that's just silly though......

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think that's differnt, Germany is scared with that every historical debate is linked to that....you could say we are almost to aware of it...I don't really know aboot Japan but I know that in eastern Germany it wasn't dealt with at all...thats mostly why we still have some problem with Neo-Nazis.....

Yeah... I can't say I know much about either. All I know is the subject is very sketchy in both... Bloody Neo-Nazis *shakes fist*

Originally posted by Red Superfly
I was reading an article about the not so great side of the war ending, particularly for all the soldiers.

You see, the war brought men together, they became like brotehrs. Their lives had meaning, and they believed what they were fighting for. For many, it was the ultimate cause. It was, an exciting time.

Now, sure people bang on about "how can they think that? When the war ended it was great!" but not for everyone. You see, many men came back to jobs they hated, that they didn't believe in, to wives that had betrayed them during their absence, and some came back to nothing at all. I was reading about the staggering amount of depression that occured within many an ex-soldier. For some, the war was their life, and you can kinda tell in the way WWII experiences are often looked upon with fondness. It was an roller coaster ride, full of severe depression and extreme joy.

WWII brought death and hate, yes, but it brought meaning and hope to those who have none. And for some, the war ending was the worst day of their life.

It was a really interesting article.

I saw a movie very similar to what you're saying with about 10 former WW2 soldiers that come home after the war to crappy jobs, hating their lives and actually having fond memories of the war. In the end they have to take the local mayor's office by assault so that the ellections aren't forged

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Bardock42
well I personally am rather patriotic..I think wee have a great history...its just a touchy subject, patriotism in Germany could easily be linked to the Third Reich.....

Germany's have a very interesting history... They made a few mistakes... but so have many other... we can't hold it against them. For a relatively new formed county... (In comparison) it has done a lot.

Originally posted by Red Superfly
I was reading an article about the not so great side of the war ending, particularly for all the soldiers.

You see, the war brought men together, they became like brotehrs. Their lives had meaning, and they believed what they were fighting for. For many, it was the ultimate cause. It was, an exciting time.

Now, sure people bang on about "how can they think that? When the war ended it was great!" but not for everyone. You see, many men came back to jobs they hated, that they didn't believe in, to wives that had betrayed them during their absence, and some came back to nothing at all. I was reading about the staggering amount of depression that occured within many an ex-soldier. For some, the war was their life, and you can kinda tell in the way WWII experiences are often looked upon with fondness. It was an roller coaster ride, full of severe depression and extreme joy.

WWII brought death and hate, yes, but it brought meaning and hope to those who have none. And for some, the war ending was the worst day of their life.

It was a really interesting article.

Sounds interesting and I can understand how they feel....I think you are talking aboot US soldiers (and other Allies) right?
Didn't a similiar thing happen in Vietnam that for many their life had lost the meaning. And I think for Veterans on the Ally side WWII is ion that way great as it is widely regarded as a "good" vs. "bad" war...which yopu can't really say of most other wars...