The Spirit of Humanity is Compassion

Originally posted by Bardock42
Can't you give your own opinion...do you really have to resstate what someone else said 5 times in one thread...of course its his opinion...but its also the truth...and please the guy you quoted was an idiott...had no clue what he was talking aboot and thought he coul contradict one of the greatest philosophers ever...please....he should get a real job....by the way
Quoting: Use these " little thingies and state the Source...okie?

Hilarious, I could start anywhere with this, but ok, Nietschze was a famous philiosopher who inspired Hitler, that sure makes him great 🙄. I stated the source in one of the posts you'll have to find it😄 I think he was a University of London and Harvard Politics Prof in the Late 50's So he had a real job 😕 My opinion is the same as his.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Hilarious, I could start anywhere with this, but ok, Nietschze was a famous philiosopher who inspired Hitler, that sure makes him great 🙄. I stated the source in one of the posts you'll have to find it😄 I think he was a University of London and Harvard Politics Prof in the Late 50's So he had a real job 😕 My opinion is the same as his.

You see inspiring something doesn't make you great or not...Nietzsche from his teachings is great and just because some Madman took his teachings turned them upside down and fed them to the masses doesn't make him any less of a good Philosopher...and nowadays he is considered ass one of the greats ....although not liked to be believed in....

I know I saw the source but you have to do it every time and show that its a quote...please that would make debating much easier.....I am just saying that what he said aboot Nietzsche is not necessarily true...he interpreted him that way....although it is very unlikely Nietzsche meant it that way.....

And I answered to what he said...I will quote it for you:

Originally posted by Bardock42

"Mr. Shirer, what you seem to forget is that Nietzsche never said that you can't chose for yourself for your own reasons to do something that might be considered compassionate....actually he even said that the "Übermensch" whiom he never claimed to be would chose for himself to obey Morals that he finds fit...he says there is just no true compassion in the world. You claim that Nietzsche learned in the end...on the contrary Nietzsche knew from the beginning, he decided for himself that he didn't want to see sufferring and he couldn't act against his decision it would have harmed him more than doing what he decided to do...he didn't help the Horse because of compassion for the Horse but because he felt that on his way to the "Übermensch" he had to decide that helping Horses (and Humans for that matter) was the right thing to do....furthermore Nietzsche suffered from insanity so not very many of his later actions can be explained by logic.....you need to open up and understand Nietzsche as a whole and not jsut take parts from his teachingst and try to contradict them with his own actions...he could have explained them"

Originally posted by whirlysplat
No I did it because I cared.

-Whirly

You only care because you would hate it if you didn't.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You see inspiring something doesn't make you great or not...Nietzsche from his teachings is great and just because some Madman took his teachings turned them upside down and fed them to the masses doesn't make him any less of a good Philosopher...and nowadays he is considered ass one of the greats ....although not liked to be believed in....

I know I saw the source but you have to do it every time and show that its a quote...please that would make debating much easier.....I am just saying that what he said aboot Nietzsche is not necessarily true...he interpreted him that way....although it is very unlikely Nietzsche meant it that way.....

And I answered to what he said...I will quote it for you:

I think giving the source once is enough on here!

He was insane only after he displayed "love" for the horse (an action many followers saw as hypocritical) I have quoted Nietzsche himself a great deal. Being well known due to Hitler, because make no bones about it he was not well thought of alive and his notoriety is purely due to his sisters links to the Nazi Party, does not make you a great philosopher.

-Whirly

OH...it's a Bardock and Whirlysplat day.....

Clinton has syphillis......

Originally posted by debbiejo
OH...it's a Bardock and Whirlysplat day.....

Clinton has syphillis......

Dah wah? What?

Kidding......

I know, and it made me laugh.

But still.... Why the hell did you say that, oh well who cares.

Originally posted by Fishy
I know, and it made me laugh.

But still.... Why the hell did you say that, oh well who cares.

They kept brining up syphilis that makes people insane....

You keep using Nietscze, I will use a far better and more famous (in his lifetime philosopher Bertrand Russells words)

Three passions have governed my life:
The longings for love, the search for knowledge,
And unbearable pity for the suffering of [humankind].

Love brings ecstasy and relieves loneliness.
In the union of love I have seen
In a mystic miniature the prefiguring vision
Of the heavens that saints and poets have imagined.

With equal passion I have sought knowledge.
I have wished to understand the hearts of [people].
I have wished to know why the stars shine.

Love and knowledge led upwards to the heavens,
But always pity brought me back to earth;
Cries of pain reverberated in my heart
Of children in famine, of victims tortured
And of old people left helpless.
I long to alleviate the evil, but I cannot,
And I too suffer.

This has been my life; I found it worth living.

Read it again, read it until you understand

He wants to stop evil but he can't and because of that he suffers.

Again its all about him, he suffers because he can't stop the suffering of other people. The reason he would want to stop the suffering of other people is to make sure he can stop suffering and so that he can finally go upwards into the heavens.

I have not argued against self interest at anypoint I have argued people care. Two different things read my posts again and understand😄

He does it because its right!

Martin Wright Edelman

It's time for greatness -- not for greed. It's a time for idealism -- not ideology. It is a time not just for compassionate words, but compassionate action.

Martin Luthor King Junior

I look forward confidently to the day when all who work for a living will be one with no thought to their separateness as Negroes, Jews, Italians or any other distinctions. This will be the day when we bring into full realization the American dream -- a dream yet unfulfilled. A dream of equality of opportunity, of privilege and property widely distributed; a dream of a land where men will not take necessities from the many to give luxuries to the few; a dream of a land where men will not argue that the color of a man's skin determines the content of his character; a dream of a nation where all our gifts and resources are held not for ourselves alone, but as instruments of service for the rest of humanity; the dream of a country where every man will respect the dignity and worth of the human personality.

Pearl S Buck

Life without idealism is empty indeed. We just hope or starve to death.

Ralph Waldo Emerson

Each man has his own vocation; his talent is his call. There is one direction in which all space is open to him.

Victor Frankl

We can discover this meaning in life in three different ways: (1) by doing a deed; (2) by experiencing a value; and (3) by suffering.

and most importantly and read and understand it

William Ellery Channing

Every human being has a work to carry on within, duties to perform abroad, influence to exert, which are peculiarly his, and which no conscience but his own can teach.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
I have not argued against self interest at anypoint I have argued people care. Two different things read my posts again and understand😄

He does it because its right!

Yeah he does it because its right, and that makes him feel better. If he would not feel better he would not have done it.

Albert eistein maybe says it best, not bad for a dyslexic like me😄

A human being is a part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feeling as something separated from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty.

Sure many people..smart people thought there was a thing like "compassion" that doesn't make them any more right though

Oh and its Luther I believe...Luthor is the bad guy from superman

Originally posted by Bardock42
Sure many people..smart people thought there was a thing like "compassion" that doesn't make them any more right though

Oh and its Luther I believe...Luthor is the bad guy from superman

That will be my dyslexia just like Albeart E kicking in, by the way Bardock its about and not aboot😄

nitpicking last bastion 😄

So like me they are all simple 😄

I am aware of that...I just want a dead man to be spelled right...no actually it bothers me because Luther is a german name 😛

I never said you were simple...nor did I say they are simple..they are just wrong in this instance...smart people do doubt aboot it....but even they can fail...

Wait back up take a step back...

Whirly you said you weren't argueing about something I just have on question for you.

Do you believe people do things that are not selfish?

Again you mistake aspiration for failiure imo

"What wisdom can you find that is greater than kindness?"
— Jean-Jacques Rousseau, French philosopher (1712-1778)