Class 100 Royal Rumble, How strong are theses Guys

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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I think that when Namor was lifting subs and ships it was back in the 60's where most everything was much smaller and lighter.

He and The THING since the 80's have been equals at 85 tons and then Ben got upgraded to 100+ tons but i haven't seen Namor get any. So in my eyes he's still 85 tons, until i can see something from Marvel themselves that says different.

But since you probably need more proof...

Namor = Class 100. Believe it.

'And again Marvel doesn't need to do more feats because theory all in continuant. Always had been. Thor doesn't lift something like the Midgard Serpent for many years but its still something everyone knows hes done. Not even the Hulk does high feats these days, and no one is going to argue he cant punch Superman.'

'These days' have been lasting a long time now. If they all started doing Feats again it would end this stupid debate as to whether or not they are as strong as the D.C. characters.

But cheers guys for replying to my post. I knew it would cause some controversy, with my theory that has little to no proof, but you still haven't changed my mind.

P.S. could someone post some scans of Namor doing something impressive???????

Oh yeah that scan kinda says he can bench press up to 100 tons. If i read that out of context i would believe that 100 tons is his limit.

But he has lifted more then 100 tons at least ten times...that would show that he is Class 100. And you shouldn't trust charts that much.

Apparently Herc's powerdown took away half his strength?

That would mean that a normal, immortal Herc can only be twice as powerful as She Hulk. (E.g. she let him win an arm wrestle.)

Now through my experience of weight training the most you can realisticly increase your strength by is about 10 x' s over. If She hulk was lifting just over 100 tons before it would mean that her new found strength would give her the ability to bench press 1 kilo ton.

If immortal Hercules is twice as powerful as she is how the hell is he dragging mathattan when he can only lift about 2000 tons?

'But he has lifted more then 100 tons at least ten times...that would show that he is Class 100. And you shouldn't trust charts that much.'

Why are the charts made then? Why have they made a whole section devoted to them on Marvel .com. (I know they are not devoted to them but you know what i mean). Why do they appear on the back of all my brothers toys????????

I'll admit they meant squat back in the day but i think they paint a more realistic picture now.

Some stuff I could find:

😂 DD didn't fare well against him...

Namor vs Dark Hulk:

And remember, this was still the old Class 85 Namor.

Did in-continuity Thor lift the midgard serpant? I don't recall ever reading it in the come, only in the myth.

'Did in-continuity Thor lift the midgard serpant? I don't recall ever reading it in the come, only in the myth.'

Kind of ??????? Like in the myth it turned into a cat and he lifted part of it. He also used an 'unbreakable' fishingline to pull it off the earth, after t had wrapped its body round the entire circumfrance.

Thor in his last title serries did verry littleto suggets he could lift anything on that scale again. He once lifted part of a large building which spiderman had attched together but it looked like he was really struggling with that.

In the avengers he getting beaten on by the likes of Pagan, Ultron amd the wrecking crew. None of these have shown they have anything beyond low level class 100 strength.

He aslo threw moljnir at full strength, and it hit wonderman, causing a barely noticeable dent in a skyscaper. If this was the same moljnir the was used to destroy that asteroid why didin't it do far more damage???????

Me-too........... But warrior madness thor could probably really do that, longpig !!

I shall post the fight between Namor, Strange and Dark Hulk. (Because Namor KICKED ASS on that fight)

"If immortal Hercules is twice as powerful as she is how the hell is he dragging mathattan when he can only lift about 2000 tons?"

Your taking the charts way in reading. Class 100 pretty much means they can lift anything they want earth based. Some more and others less. Herc dragging Manhattan wasent because " he can only drag this amount of weight" but more he " dragged as much it was needed for the story".

'Did in-continuity Thor lift the midgard serpant? I don't recall ever reading it in the come, only in the myth"

At Marvel he did lifted in continuaty. It goes against the myth because the Serpent spells for "infinite weight" or at least a weight not measurable. He tried twice in comics. The one where he tried to lift Juggermoud as a cat comes from the canon myth. The other is a marvel exageration of that myth. Or lets say the myth taken to a new extreme.

Yeah, Strange saved the day, but Namor did the dirty work. 😎

'Me-too........... But warrior madness thor could probably really do that, longpig !!'

Sorry dude what does that mean???????

You probably weren't talking to me so sorry.

Oh yeh herc makes reference to being only as strong as two or three asgardians???????

Havn't they got level 5 strength???????/

"Oh yeh herc makes reference to being only as strong as two or three asgardians??????? "

If he did he meant the strongest asgardians of course. Normal asgardian level is about 20 class. maybe a bit less.

'Your taking the charts way in reading. Class 100 pretty much means they can lift anything they want earth based. Some more and others less. Herc dragging Manhattan wasent because " he can only drag this amount of weight" but more he " dragged as much it was needed for the story". '

Nah dude im taking it from She hulks performances. I've seen her lift a few small buildings which cant weigh more than a couple 100 tons. Im not taking it from the charts, just from the characters performances. But recent ones.

😉

Nah dude it makes it quite clear that he means average asgardians.
I don't have the book on me cos it is at home but i remember it quite well.

Also Count Nefaria maxed out after lifting what has been referred to as a mountain sized rock???????

now i haven't seen the pic but I'm sure it wasn't as big as Manhattan and i know it wasn't as big as the midgard serpent. Even youll admit that Nefaria is a league above Thor.

"Nah dude it makes it quite clear that he means average asgardians.
I dont have the book on me cos it is at home but i rember it quite well"

Was that in avengers #12 of Busiek era? What he said was something in the lines of " even depowered as i am, im still easily worth 2 or 3 of your asgardian warriors eh?"

He was talking to Thor. It was nothing more than a rival exchange between the migth of Asgardian warriors vs the might of the Olympian ones.

"Even oulladmit that Nefaria is a league above Thor."

In overall power not strenght.

What issue number is that? It isn't Defenders...😈
I like how Namor and Strange get along, he actually respects Strange even if he's human.

The first one you are right with it is that comic. But Herc is definatley someone who likes to boast. Why not ake the figure much higher???????? Why de value himself in a gesture where he is trying to promote himself?????????

But what do you mean by this???????? 😕

'In overall power not strenght.'

The other night i produced a list of beings who you agreed where in level above Thor and Herc and that. Nefaria was on that list?

I think it has been proved that thor is no match for Nefaria in strength

Originally posted by long pig
What issue number is that? It isn't Defenders...😈
I like how Namor and Strange get along, he actually respects Strange even if he's human.

Incredible Hulk v2 #371

Yeah, Defenders is the best team ever.

Strange: "By the power of Dormammu and Mephisto's fiendish eyes, let this debris hurt no one...but instead reform into my window!"

Namor: "Effective, but it doesn't remotely rhyme."

Strange: "Everyone is an critic. I'm a doctor, not an poet."