'Class 100 pretty much means they can lift anything they want earth based.'
What can class 90 and level 6 lift then???????
If anyone in class 100can lift anything from cities to Mountains its not going to give someone who can lift ninety tons much of a chance. Yet there are many ocassions where class 90 charcaters have given good showings. 😕
"What can class 90 and level 6 lift then???????"
They can lift less than 100 class guys and gals can. Theyr ,more limited. Altho they all have they high end feats. Usually 100 class guys can lift -from- 100 tons and way above.
"If anyone in class 100can lift anything from cities to Mountains its not going to give someone who can lift ninety tons much of a chance. Yet there are many ocassions where class 90 charcaters have given good showings"
Thats because figthing someone is different than lifting things. Combat wise the 90 class has enough strengh to take punches from above and give punches too. They just arent stronger than that.
About Herc boasting. The only good thing about the depowering is that he became humble and aware of his limitations. Immortal he is boastfull all the time because well....with that kind of strengh and skills who wouldnt be? Even Supes is sometimes.
And Nefaria....overall power meaning also strenght. I just dont know if he has what it takes on pure raw strengh compared with Thor. Hes up there no doubt, but more? Overal in abilities and combat showing hes a league above Thor.
why is Olympian writing this then;
'Class 100 pretty much means they can lift anything they want earth based.'
and the other day i heard Aqua man was at class 80 even though he has lifted objects such as ocean liners and parts of San Fransisco (Dude before you mention it i know he is from D.C.)
Someone said he is associated with that level because his general performance is on the level of a class 80 character.
I don't think DC has level classes. So, there's your answer.
Superboy has trouble lifting a train, few years later, he throws the train across the ocean.
DC changes a lot.
Slade has lifted a car up enough to flip it, yet he has trouble overpowering Batman sometimes.
Take DC's strength feats with a grain of sand.
"why is Olympian writing this then;
'Class 100 pretty much means they can lift anything they want earth based"
Because 100 class means they can lift above 100 tons? Wich means mountains, cities, islands etc. the 90 class only lift those as end high feat.
Aquaman is not an 80 class character. That underwater lifting in Sub Diego he did is not his norm. Its an high feat for him. The reason he sometimes hangs with Top tier in fights its due more to his skills as a figther and huge durability.
Dude do you think that a class ninety charcter is generally going to beat a class 1 charcter relatively easilly?
If you do this makes no sensse:
'Thats because figthing someone is different than lifting things. Combat wise the 90 class has enough strengh to take punches fr'om above and give punches too. They just arent stronger than that.'
My maths is not the best in the world but i think there is a lot more difference between 90 and a million tons than there is between 90 and 1 tons.
''Class 100 pretty much means they can lift anything they want earth based"
And this suggests that they can lift over a million tons??
Sorry mann i don't know what this means.
'the 90 class only lift those as end high feat.'
'That underwater lifting in Sub Diego he did is not his norm'
Why can you apply this arguement to a D.C. character and not marvel characters.
I tell you what going from lifting ocean liners to lifting a part of san fransico is alot more consistent, than going from lifting a creature the size of earth to having difficulty with someone who can barely lift 90 tons.
"Dude do you think that a class ninety charcter is generally going to beat a class 100 charcter relatively easilly?
No. I said they can stand against them. Doesnt translate in beating them. See the Thing / Hulk fights. Theres almost a level between these two. Thing can and has fought the Hulk but doesnt - regularly- (wich is the key ) beats him. The word is regulary. regulary 90 class its not going to lift or beat 100 class. But its not impossible to do it. they can get a - non regular- showing and be able to do it.
"My maths is not the best in the world but i think there is a lot more difference between 90 and a million tons than there is between 90 and 1"
and
"I tell you what going from lifting ocean liners to lifting a part of san fransico is alot more consistent, than going from lifting a creature the size of earth to having difficulty with someone who can barely lift 90 tons."
And i stand by the fact that figthing someone its harder than lifting something. Its how it is in real life. Your going to have more trouble figthing than lifting.
"That underwater lifting in Sub Diego he did is not his norm'
Why can you apply this arguement to a D.C. character and not marvel characters."
I apply in both. That feat in Sub Diego was one that guys like Herc or Hulk could done easily. Think of class 100 as the higher level the heroes have in strengh and not just the tons.
Nah dude you've cahnged my quote:
It originally said :
Dude do you think that a class ninety charcter is generally going to beat a class 1 charcter relatively easilly?
Youve changed it to :
"Dude do you think that a class ninety charcter is generally going to beat a class 100 charcter relatively easilly?'
U have changed the 1 to a 100.
This makes a bit more sense when you take my original quote:
('If you do this makes no sensse:
'Thats because figthing someone is different than lifting things. Combat wise the 90 class has enough strengh to take punches fr'om above and give punches too. They just arent stronger than that.'
My maths is not the best in the world but i think there is a lot more difference between 90 and a million tons than there is between 90 and 1 tons.'😉
'I apply in both. That feat in Sub Diego was one that guys like Herc or Hulk could done easily. Think of class 100 as the higher level the heroes have in strengh and not just the tons'
Your statement suggests that both hulk and Herc would easilly be able to do this.
Yet Herc has only done one thing on this level before and he did this many years ago. I beleive this is enough evidence to suggest that this is not his normal strength. Just as you are suggesting that Aquaman not being able to lift San Fransico is not his 'normal' strength.
The Hulk on the other hand is a difference case. As his strength is potentionally limitless, i will admit that he can just about lift anything.
"Your statement suggests that both hulk and Herc would easilly be able to do this."
And they can.
"Yet Herc has only done one thing on this level before and he did this many years ago"
I think your overrating Aquamans feat. It was a streeth at most or a part of a block. Your telling me thats more than ripping mountains with your hands, dragging islands, trow skycrafters, or destroying blocks while figthing the Hulk?
"Just as you are suggesting that Aquaman not being able to lift San Fransico is not his 'normal' strength. "
He didnt lifted Sub Diego. He lifted what it looked like at most a part of a block. Looked a streeth to me. And its not his regular feat no, his other strenght feats are below.
does anyone know what excatley the gem titania had does? i thought it made you immune to things like pshyical harm and stuff, but when she-hulk punched her it was revealed that titania actually felt the punch. also does anyone know her current strength level? i mean she lifted the things ultimate strength level with one hand while wearing the jupiter suit, and let hercules beat her in an arm wrestle because it meant so much more to him. in the comic it said that he was giving it all he had and she wasn't even trying, and she was wearing her jupiter suit while doing that. her suit regulates her strength and cuts back her power by a lot.
You mean the punch when jennifer Walters had the gem herself?
Gem titania beat on the Fantastic Four, Avengers ( Iron Man, Wasp, Giant Man, captain america) Spiderman, Hercules, Samson and She Hulk before she reverted back as jennifer. Oh another guy that didnt belonged to any of the teams too. Andy.
Jennifer beat Titania but when she got the gem herself.
Originally posted by olympian
You mean the punch when jennifer Walters had the gem herself?Gem titania beat on the Fantastic Four, Avengers ( Iron Man, Wasp, Giant Man, captain america) Spiderman, Hercules, Samson and She Hulk before she reverted back as jennifer. Oh another guy that didnt belonged to any of the teams too. Andy.
Jennifer beat Titania but when she got the gem herself.
But before either of them had the gem a few issues prior titania attacked she hulk and she hulk casually knocked her across the horizon.