Shin Akuma with Venom Symbiosis faces gauntlet

Originally posted by newjak86
I won't disagree on whether it can stun him without his helmet it very well could but stunning him isn't beating him.
Not to sound like I'm bashing you man because you are very knowledgeable but you have yet to answer my question on the Raging demon. Does it Pysically attack the mind or is it more likea normal telepathic attack.

Do you agree that a stun would allow him to warp him into space then, or execute a demon.

Stop bashing me. 🙁

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Its just mystical in nature, but I can say it attacks all, but not telepathic, it should be treated as mystical,(related to magic), and able to injure.

Do you agree that a stun would allow him to warp him into space then, or execute a demon.

Stop bashing me. 🙁

I do agree that the attack you described attacking him could very well stun him as it has been proven to be possible and then he could warp him into space.

I won't stop Bashing you 😆

I enjoy this, but I'll return you basher, I need to eat and do a lawn, duty calls.

Its beyond telepathic, and can hurt juggs, no different from thors hammer.

Cya C-Master but Thors Hammer has never hurt Juggs though

The energy was magic, did it not affect him at all? Or am I mistaken?

Just keep in mind that the raging demon is beyond telepathic attacks, because it is meant to kill, in all causes. Akuma at his max potential soups it up, and the symbiote even more.

Bye now.

Even though Thor's hammer is magic it has never had an effect on Juggs. He evn took a godblast from it no problems and once again that is classic Juggs 8th Day is at least a 100 times more powerful than him.
The problem is if it is meant to kill then it won't effect juggs because nothing has been known to kill him. He was once stripped down to nothing but a skelton no organs or bones at all and was still moving around like nothing had happened to him.

thors hammer's magic indeed had an effect on juggernaut

in one faceoff, mjolnir flew around the castle they were fighting in and removed juggernaut's inviniciblity for 60 seconds, during which time thor was able to land a few punches

Originally posted by masterbruce
thors hammer's magic indeed had an effect on juggernaut

in one faceoff, mjolnir flew around the castle they were fighting in and removed juggernaut's inviniciblity for 60 seconds, during which time thor was able to land a few punches

So you are concluding that hitting him into space is the best option, how likely do you see that happening, with akuma's superior speed and warping ability?

It could be a very viable option as his speed isn't that great and from the power you say Akuma posses he should be able to move Juggernauts weight no problem.
Now with the exception of a few theories I feel that I have stopped any real threat akuma posses to harm Juggs i will now go on the offence.
First I will use the symbiote's weakness. The symbiote is very susceptible to sonics and is it's biggest weakness. I will do this by using a move Hulk made famous. When he slaps his hands together he can create a sonic wave that he can do in a relatively calm state. Now Classic Juggs isn't far of from Calm Hulk's strength so he could do this as well but there is a big difference about to take place. 8th day is about 100 times the strength of Classic so his Sonics Clap would be especially devastating. You couldn't outrun it since it would go in all directions. The symbiote becomes weak and so does the host infact they wouldn't be able to move. akuma would be stunned and his ear drums would probably be ruptured as well. while in the state all 8th day would have to do is walk p and crush Akuma's head.

Originally posted by newjak86
It could be a very viable option as his speed isn't that great and from the power you say Akuma posses he should be able to move Juggernauts weight no problem.
Now with the exception of a few theories I feel that I have stopped any real threat akuma posses to harm Juggs i will now go on the offence.
First I will use the symbiote's weakness. The symbiote is very susceptible to sonics and is it's biggest weakness. I will do this by using a move Hulk made famous. When he slaps his hands together he can create a sonic wave that he can do in a relatively calm state. Now Classic Juggs isn't far of from Calm Hulk's strength so he could do this as well but there is a big difference about to take place. 8th day is about 100 times the strength of Classic so his Sonics Clap would be especially devastating. You couldn't outrun it since it would go in all directions. The symbiote becomes weak and so does the host infact they wouldn't be able to move. akuma would be stunned and his ear drums would probably be ruptured as well. while in the state all 8th day would have to do is walk p and crush Akuma's head.

That means he is most attuned to using this symbiote, whats to stop him from warping away, or drilling to the ground?

It's the idea of sonics because it would be able to travel everywhere and it doesn't matter the host because the Symbiote and the Host are almost one in the same now meaning what ever hurts the symbiote hurts the host as well. Plus the effect of having the Symbiote removed stuns and weakens everyone who has it on. Plus if 8th day didn't feel you were stunned enough he could just do it again and and you would be so dazed you wouldn't know what is happeing.

Akuma has a very effective warp move for that.

An island or mountain or city destroying blast would slow him down for sure.

Yes but it wouldn't hurt 8th day but the sonic clap would basically end this fight plus Juggs doesn't tire so he could take everything until he finallt lands one then it's all over.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
If this is akuma at his max, he takes it easily, the only problem would be how to be rid of juggernaut, but a raging demon eats the mind, heart, and sould. And a chi blast is no normal damage by any means.

Well, if Ruy would be at his max, he alone is enough to take Shin Akuma down (as we know, Shin Akuma=Akuma at his best). And yes, he could take Juggernat down, Juggs has soul, he wouldn't be able to defend against Akuma, phyisically yes, soul no).

I disagree, he can avoid that move with a warp, akuma has superb speed.

Keep him busy in meleee, symbiote removes helmet, and misogi to stun, SHIN AKUMA, can do this in mere seconds.

One warp and its a ring out, in a pure fight, akuma has a significantly smaller chance of winning.

exactly I will not argue the possible outcome he could very well warp him but it isn't as easy to remove juggs helmet as you would like to think. It has taken powerful blows from Hulk to remove it and many more than one so if you try to get close enoguh to do it you will be out in his range. Plus even though he has super speed it is very hard to out run a sonic slap and even if he does warp to somewhere the sonic effect will still be going on there as well.

In pure phiysical battle, Juggs strenght would overwhelm Shin Akuma. But in fight genreally, Akuma would put Juggs down.

Originally posted by newjak86
exactly I will not argue the possible outcome he could very well warp him but it isn't as easy to remove juggs helmet as you would like to think. It has taken powerful blows from Hulk to remove it and many more than one so if you try to get close enoguh to do it you will be out in his range. Plus even though he has super speed it is very hard to out run a sonic slap and even if he does warp to somewhere the sonic effect will still be going on there as well.

The symbiote is superior to concussive damage, it could do so, its that crafty.

The symbiote is craty but it isn't strong enough to remove the helmet without Akuma getting close enough to try. Also you still have to get pass the sonic clap.