Nabu vs The Vishanti

<<The Vishanti is more powerful than Nabu. That's all that matters.>.

no one really knows, however i think your logic is faulty. by your reasoning, strange would be unbeatable - ie - he would beat anyone below the vishanti. you are assuming that he gets all the power of the vishanti when he conjures. but he doesn't. in fact, CLEARLY this is not the case. so it doesn't matter IF the vishanti ARE more powerful - which (in their individual realms and combined) they probably are. the vishanti are WAYYYY more powerful than enchantress and executioner as well - but the 2 combined were about to kill strange until clea saved his ass. combined, they're more powerful than almost ANYONE. but to say strange can beat anyone because the vishanti are more powerful than almost anyone makes no sense because obviously this is not the case.

i've said it before - strange is tough - but he's not unbeatable. he and fate are very close.

Originally posted by leonidas
<<The Vishanti is more powerful than Nabu. That's all that matters.>.

no one really knows, however i think your logic is faulty. by your reasoning, strange would be unbeatable - ie - he would beat anyone below the vishanti. you are assuming that he gets all the power of the vishanti when he conjures. but he doesn't. in fact, CLEARLY this is not the case. so it doesn't matter IF the vishanti ARE more powerful - which (in their individual realms and combined) they probably are. the vishanti are WAYYYY more powerful than enchantress and executioner as well - but the 2 combined were about to kill strange until clea saved his ass. combined, they're more powerful than almost ANYONE. but to say strange can beat anyone because the vishanti are more powerful than almost anyone makes no sense because obviously this is not the case.

i've said it before - strange is tough - but he's not unbeatable. he and fate are very close.

But even a portion of there power is too much for many heroes

as for fate i don't know how powerful he is.............

I know Fate! full helme kent Nelson/Nabu fate is uber😄

Originally posted by whirlysplat
I know Fate! full helme kent Nelson/Nabu fate is uber😄

hmmmmmmmmm, unlikely as the JLA always win 😄

unlikely, but he would put up a fight. and you're right, kg. usually a part IS enough. against fate, it might be, but there's a chance fate might take him as well.

Has everyone forgotten that someone would have to put on the helmet that melding nabu's spirit with the person wearing it,
i hear people saying that if they take off the helmet nabu would be destroyed but that's not true the person wearing the helmet would,
because once the helmet comes off (if ever does hear it's impossible) Then the connection between the person and nabu is broken.
Nabu has the powers not the other person,
They call a person who wears the helmet the INVINCIBLE man, So wouldn't it bet the invincible man going against,

if both were to fight with out any help i think fate might win.

There have been very, very few times where Strange has been denied the power that he needs to do something. The only time I can recall is when he first started dealing with Sligguth, Shuma Gorath, etc. Even then the Vishanti pointed him in the direction that he needed to go. Same when he was trying to prevent Mephisto and Satannish from destroying earth--Agamotto wouldn't involve himself directly, but he guided Strange in a way to defeat him. The Vishanti also aren't usually Strange's first method of attack, either. And he draws magic from other sources as well (gaian, chaos, etc).

Originally posted by Mider
if both were to fight with out any help i think fate might win.

Without any help? You mean no magic for either?

Pfft... Stevie is a superb hand to hand fighter. He would trounce Kent.

Even without magic Kent does have a good degree of super strength.

I don't think he has them w/o the helm. Half helm sure, but doesn't have magic, only PC strength, physical invulnerability and flight.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
I don't think he has them w/o the helm. Half helm sure, but doesn't have magic, only PC strength, physical invulnerability and flight.

I know that but has he ever simulated super-strength with it?

Originally posted by The Ion
Even without magic Kent does have a good degree of super strength.

Not without the helmet, which is magic. 😛

Strange has innate magical abilities as well. I don't think he has TK, though.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
I know that but has he ever simulated super-strength with it?

The Vishanti are too powerful and throw in the other members, nabu is good as dead.

nabu if he lost would certainly put up a hell of a fight. He's the most powerful and wise of the lords of order or at least was until Spectre sent him on the last journey. its certainly not going to be the least bit easy for them. But I see this going either way.