Fantastic Four vs Spider-Man, Wolverine, Storm & Colossus

Blocking off their throats wouldn't necessarily kill them... she could just do so until they pass out, then release the forcefields.

if she boocks their throats then storm hits her with lightning right away, since sue is human one bolt should take her out, which will make the fields dissapear. or colossus just goes up and punshes her or her field, she will have to realese one and i bet she would release the throats

Originally posted by stormfront13
I don't think wolverine or spidey would beat fantastic, i mean isn't his body immune to attack like that or something?

yeah, you may be right. i think the fantastic four are so overrated, sue and their tweamwork can't save them everytime

Originally posted by stormfront13
if she boocks their throats then storm hits her with lightning right away, since sue is human one bolt should take her out, which will make the fields dissapear. or colossus just goes up and punshes her or her field, she will have to realese one and i bet she would release the throats

Based on the assumption that Storm can concentrate to generate a lightning bolt while she's asphyxiating and that she can maintain flight at the same time. I like Storm but it's not that clear cut.

I remembered Colossus would be unaffected by Sue doing this. 😮

I'm thinking either team could win depending on circumstances.

Originally posted by stormfront13
yeah, you may be right. i think the fantastic four are so overrated, sue and their tweamwork can't save them everytime

Just because they with a lesser number of characters (4) can always beat down any actual X-team anytime or place.

. Doesn't mean you have to be a hero hater.

And yes teamwork means a hell of a lot. And they've been doing it together longer than anyone as a team.

Thats why they're the best. 😎

she would still be able to use her powers even though she can't breath, it might be suprising that she can't breath, but she can still shoot lightning

Oh God. Who decided to put Wolverine on this team?

Wolverine will get the crap beat out of him. He is useless against this team. Replace Wolverine with Nightcrawler, and then you have a definite win for the X-men and Spiderman.

Colossus can take Thing and win after a long, drawn-out battle. Just for kicks, Nightcrawler can help if he has to. Even Spiderman.

Spidey or Storm can take Human Torch. Whoever does it, HT goes down cuz he won't go Nova.

Nightcrawler or Storm could take Invisble Woman. Storm could affect the inside of her forefield or just strike her with lightning if she's fast enough. Nightcrawler could teleport inside her forcefield and teleport out of them if he has to.

Nightcrawler or Spiderman could take Mr. Fantastic. Both are easily able to outmanuever Reed's attacks and can just as easily get in close-range. Spidey can web him up, which would only stop him for a second, but that second might be all that Spidey needs. He could also just wear him down and get some hits in. Nightcrawler would just need to teleport up close, attack, teleport again, rinse and repeat. Or he could grab Mr. Fantastic and teleport him into things, like a brick wall, or uh...I dunno, somewhere really cold would work, too. It would slow Mr. Fantastic down a lot.

Either way, if you replace Wolverine with Nightcrawler, the X-men and Spiderman easily win this one.

i believe storm is the key to victory on this one, i mean one-on-one she could take all of fantastic four.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Oh God. Who decided to put Wolverine on this team?

Wolverine will get the crap beat out of him. He is useless against this team. Replace Wolverine with Nightcrawler, and then you have a definite win for the X-men and Spiderman.

Colossus can take Thing and win after a long, drawn-out battle. Just for kicks, Nightcrawler can help if he has to. Even Spiderman.

Spidey or Storm can take Human Torch. Whoever does it, HT goes down cuz he won't go Nova.

Nightcrawler or Storm could take Invisble Woman. Storm could affect the inside of her forefield or just strike her with lightning if she's fast enough. Nightcrawler could teleport inside her forcefield and teleport out of them if he has to.

Nightcrawler or Spiderman could take Mr. Fantastic. Both are easily able to outmanuever Reed's attacks and can just as easily get in close-range. Spidey can web him up, which would only stop him for a second, but that second might be all that Spidey needs. He could also just wear him down and get some hits in. Nightcrawler would just need to teleport up close, attack, teleport again, rinse and repeat. Or he could grab Mr. Fantastic and teleport him into things, like a brick wall, or uh...I dunno, somewhere really cold would work, too. It would slow Mr. Fantastic down a lot.

Either way, if you replace Wolverine with Nightcrawler, the X-men and Spiderman easily win this one.

I agree... replacing Wolvie with Shadowcat would also ensure a win for the team. Often underestimated an angry Nightcrawler or a pissed off Shadowcat are very dangerous.

yeah, i agree i would rather have nightcrawler here, but it doesn't mattyer, the x-men win this anyway

Originally posted by stormfront13
i believe storm is the key to victory on this one, i mean one-on-one she could take all of fantastic four.

lol but you always think Storm is the key to victory 😛
She probably is here though. 😄
IW and Storm would be a good fight.

wel as powerful adn versatile as she is, sometimes she is, but here she definitley is. but storm should beat invisable woman, all it needs os ine attack, and her invisability won't work, neither will her force-fields

Originally posted by stormfront13
i believe storm is the key to victory on this one, i mean one-on-one she could take all of fantastic four.

No offense, Stormfront13, but I really don't believe that she would be able to take on the whole Fantastic Four herself. She's powerful, yes. One of my favorites even. But she's just not that powerful.

I mean, seriously, what would she do against Thing?

And then there's Mr. Fantastic. I thought of a very clever way that he would beat her. First, dodging her attacks, he moves close to her (Easy since he can stretch and stuff). Then he brings all of his body around on her, and forms a small, tight bubble around her. Oh no, his plan is not to suffocate her, but to induce her horrific fear of claustrophobia. Storm would literally freak and spaz until she passed out.

I love her, but she couldn't do it on her own.

no, not all at once, separatley. and if fantastic wants to do that, then he can but did you see what happened when doom did something similar? storm went insane and was warping weather patterns all over the world with a thought. she created a world-wide storm with no effort and the x-men couldn't sop her. they told her she was just like dark-phoenix, and in the same form she easily blew up a boom-bot with one bolt. and i have been told that the thing needs to breath, it was always being brought up in the thing VS colossus threads and storm can easily suffocate him.

I'm really just arguing FF for arguments sake.. I'm thinking this would be 5/10 to each side, it all really depends on the situation

If we switch the players around different things can occur.
Torch can stay out of reach by flight and superheat Colossus... all metal has a melting point. If Storm tries to snuff out his flame with rain she runs the risk of causing Colossus to cool to rapidly and fracture as he has before.
I know it's gross but Mr. Fantastic could conceivably force his way down Storm's throat... that would be shocking enough for anyone to lose concentration.
IW handles Wolverine and Spider-Man with ease.
Thing is there in reserve.

I seriously don't think Storm would be able to maintain flight and concentrate enough to both generate a lightning bolt and aim correctly at Sue if she tried to block off Storm's throat. I can't remember if Sue's fields can protect from energetic attacks.

sues fields might be able to protect, but storm can affect the inside. all it takes is one hit, and the shields should be released. it only takes a thought to send a bolt. storm could just elect4rify the air inside sues field so then storm doesn't even have to aim.

storm knows from expierence that rain alone might not snuff him out so she will use wind, as she has in the past

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'm really just arguing FF for arguments sake.. I'm thinking this would be 5/10 to each side, it all really depends on the situation

If we switch the players around different things can occur.
Torch can stay out of reach by flight and superheat Colossus... all metal has a melting point. If Storm tries to snuff out his flame with rain she runs the risk of causing Colossus to cool to rapidly and fracture as he has before.
I know it's gross but Mr. Fantastic could conceivably force his way down Storm's throat... that would be shocking enough for anyone to lose concentration.
IW handles Wolverine and Spider-Man with ease.
Thing is there in reserve.

I seriously don't think Storm would be able to maintain flight and concentrate enough to both generate a lightning bolt and aim correctly at Sue if she tried to block off Storm's throat. I can't remember if Sue's fields can protect from energetic attacks.

Oh yea, I meant to answer that question earlier. Thanks for bringing it up. Colossus's melting point is 12,000 degrees F. I know that it can be achieved by HT, but that's a pretty high temperature. He'd risk burning the entire city or where they're fighting in. I could just see their arena going up in a blazing glory because of Human Torch.

And to defend Storm, she wouldn't have to cool Colossus as well. She can actually control where her cold weather/rainstorms go. For example, she's able to produce a small 1'x1' rain cloud to water her plants. She can easily do the same to HT without damaging Colossus.

Gah. I'm still pissed that Wolverine is in this fight. He's more of a liability than anything. The others will have to look out for him.

If the FF don't hold back they'd win this but as they do hold back I'd say team X-Spidey win... with Wolverine being absolutely redundant... but it's not as easy as some would make it out to be. If you replaced Wolvie with another X-Man e.g. Shadowcat, Nightcrawler, then I'd say Team X-Spidey would definitely win more often than not.

Storm is strong, tough and extremely strongwilled. She's a force to be reckoned with.

But she's not on Sues level.

Note : if I were Colossus, I would leave Thing for what he is, and focus on Reed. I don't see Reed winning from Colossus. As far as I know, there's nothing he can do to hurt Colossus.