Fantastic Four vs Spider-Man, Wolverine, Storm & Colossus

Wolverine would make this a very difficult fight for the FF to win because Sue isn't going to be able to just maintain forcefields indefinitely and Wolvy can slice Mr.Fantastic.

The nova blast is something that Johnny can't surprise the foursome with because Spider-man's danger sense will go nuts as soon as Johnny makes up his mind on this course of action. Spidey will know that the only thing that could make his Spider-sense blare, warning danger from every direction is the nova attack that only the torch is capable of. With a quick shout to his teammates and a webbing shield over himself and Storm and they WOULD survive the blast. ( Collosus should be alright and would probably protect Wolverine from the blast enough to keep him alive. The FF would have to be protected from the blast by Sue as well and that may be a problem as they will all be very busy.)

The Thing is outmatched by the combination of Wolverine and Colossus as he cannot ignore either one and though he may knock Wolverine out he'll regain consciousness before his team is defeated. Sue is the only one on the FF's team that can put Collosus out of commision and like I said before she will be quite busy protecting herself. She can't hide because Wolverine WILL smell her.

Johnny Storm's weakness should be exploited immediately as Storm causes the battle field to be caught in a torrential rainstorm.

In an all out fight, the Fantastic Four would be outmatched battling three very powerful mutants and an unrelenting Spider-man.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Spidey ... can take Human Torch.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Spider-man's danger sense will go nuts as soon as Johnny makes up his mind on this course of action.

I really don't think webbing shields are gonna hold up against a nova blast of 1,000,000 F and Colossus would melt and Wolvie would die.

web sheild? colossus surviving?? wha?? C melts and so would spidy and storm and anyone else....I think that X had an alright strategy to this, reed goin for the throat, torch for wolvie and Colossus and IW takes spidy and helps torch....thing is just there....

Depending on the comic, a nova takes some time, and after that, he's completely exhausted. And he'll run the risk to fry his family and Thing too.

Why would he even need to go nova?

Storm is the only one that proves a threat to the FF here.

Hmm... to melt Colossus takes 1.2% the temp of a nova.

I'm still thinking tie but leaning towards FF. Depends on the scenario.

This could occur...
Torch goes after Colossus.
IW can handle Wolverine and Spidey.
Mr. Fantastic could get an airborne Storm to the ground to a waiting Thing where a gentle tap could knock her out.

I'm afraid I don't know the melting point of organic steel. What I do know is that Torch has great powers, but little common sense.

He'll be the first one to go down. Though I still think that Colossus should fight Reed first. If the leader is down, half of the battle is fought.

According to Metalmanx Colossus melts at 12,000 F.

I want a feasible reason as to why torch would successfully pull off a nova with everyone around.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I want a feasible reason as to why torch would successfully pull off a nova with everyone around.

Storm is the only one that is a threat to him.

Originally posted by Creshosk
How?

So he IS a mind reader. . .

It was a while ago that you implied that Spider-man's Spidersense doesn't warn him of danger until the danger begins.....Not So.

Spider-man has defused many bombs by using his Spider-sense to tell him which wires NOT to pull. It warns him before the danger begins and it tells him which direction it's coming from. It's been doing this same thing for so long I'm surprised that you aren't aware of how it has worked waaaay more times than it has been negated just like nightcrawler's ability to teleport was negated in the secret war battle that you spoke of in the past.

Spidey's not an imbecile...The only one capable of making his Spider-sense go berserk is the torch....Do you think that the spider-sense registers the same way every time as well as thinking that it comes in late? I would think that he's at least a little used to deciphering it by now.

Regardless....Glad to see ya back Creshosk.. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by The MISTER
It was a while ago that you implied that Spider-man's Spidersense doesn't warn him of danger until the danger begins.....Not So.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Spider-man has defused many bombs by using his Spider-sense to tell him which wires NOT to pull.

Originally posted by The MISTER
It warns him before the danger begins and it tells him which direction it's coming from. It's been doing this same thing for so long I'm surprised that you aren't aware of how it has worked waaaay more times than it has been negated just like nightcrawler's ability to teleport was negated in the secret war battle that you spoke of in the past.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Spidey's not an imbecile...The only one capable of making his Spider-sense go berserk is the torch....Do you think that the spider-sense registers the same way every time as well as thinking that it comes in late? I would think that he's at least a little used to deciphering it by now.

Come on, as soon as torch decides to do something, spiderman is well aware of everything the torch is going to do?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Why would he need to?

Storm is the only one that is a threat to him.

Colossus and Ben are a stalemate.

Wolverine can keep reed busy.

Spiderman can barely beat firelord.

Storm can keep sue busy, IMO.

And as far as the torches nova blast is concerned....He's not melting down a city with it cause he was exhausted after using it on one opponent in the secret wars I think......What I'm sure of is that the blast only affected about 2-3 blocks worth of an area, and I may be exxagerating so it doesn't seem like I'm downplaying it. I think Cap was ground zero for the blast as well and was protected by his shield so I'm not impressed by it's efficiency.

I know he used it in the secret wars but I haven't read that comic in a while...I'm recalling this from memory.

How's Nova going to be an effective move in this match?

Originally posted by stormfront13
i believe storm is the key to victory on this one, i mean one-on-one she could take all of fantastic four.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
How's Nova going to be an effective move in this match?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Spiderman can barely beat firelord.

You seriously beliveve that Spiderman can just go 1 on 1 with firelord without outside help?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Not without outside circumstances. . .

You seriously beliveve that Spiderman can just go 1 on 1 with firelord without outside help?

I don't think he can beat him period.

Where'd you quote that, get the entire quote, as I probably went against that.
What was outside help, the avengers hadn't ariived yet.