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Bishop isn't a threat. Bishop was still helpless against Magneto - his release of energy was because he could no longer contain Magneto's output and he spontaneously released it. Magneto didn't know better at the time...now he does. Magneto wins by just casually putting everybody to sleep and going home. Except Iceman, who Magneto will convert to component molecules in the immediate area its components molecules. It won't kill Iceman, but Iceman won't be able to manipulate anything within Magneto. Current Magneto is also telepathic and could just take down Iceman that way too.
Originally posted by demigawd
Bishop isn't a threat. Bishop was still helpless against Magneto - his release of energy was because he could no longer contain Magneto's output and he spontaneously released it. Magneto didn't know better at the time...now he does. Magneto wins by just casually putting everybody to sleep and going home. Except Iceman, who Magneto will convert to component molecules in the immediate area its components molecules. It won't kill Iceman, but Iceman won't be able to manipulate anything within Magneto. Current Magneto is also telepathic and could just take down Iceman that way too.
I disagree. Youre assuming theyre going to be working individually. If they pool their powers then they could certainly defeat Magneto. How will Magneto convert Iceman to component molecules? Has he shown this ability or are you assuming this is within his capabilities because of your physics knowledge? Also how do you know iceman cant use his powers in such a state?
Magneto's control over all EM energy gives him control over not just one of the four fundamental forces of the universe, but, because the Unified Theory was proven in Marvel, the ENTIRE physical universe. It pretty much makes him Silver Surfer-lite. Magneto was always portrayed as powerful enough telepathically to make Astral projections. It was said in the early days that Magneto and Xavier were the only two people on earth able to do so. That's no longer the case, but Magneto-as-telepath was always something in his history. He just got a boost in that ability.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I disagree. Youre assuming theyre going to be working individually. If they pool their powers then they could certainly defeat Magneto. How will Magneto convert Iceman to component molecules? Has he shown this ability or are you assuming this is within his capabilities because of your physics knowledge? Also how do you know iceman cant use his powers in such a state?
Pool their powers how? You came up with this fight because you have something in mind about the way this particular arrangement of X-men will work together. But everybody on this roster and about two dozen other X-men were all rendered helpless by Magneto in the opening of Fatal Attractions. No go.
Magneto converts Iceman to component molecules by electrolyzing the ice, which converts it to hydrogen and oxygen. Polaris did it to Iceman's ice shields and tore right through them. She could have done the same to Iceman himself if she wanted to. Magneto won't be so nice.
Iceman can't use his powers in such a state because Iceman can only exist as states of water - liquid, solid or gas. Hydrogen and Oxygen aren't one of them.
Originally posted by demigawd
Pool their powers how? You came up with this fight because you have something in mind about the way this particular arrangement of X-men will work together. But everybody on this roster and about two dozen other X-men were all rendered helpless by Magneto in the opening of Fatal Attractions. No go.Magneto converts Iceman to component molecules by electrolyzing the ice, which converts it to hydrogen and oxygen. Polaris did it to Iceman's ice shields and tore right through them. She could have done the same to Iceman himself if she wanted to. Magneto won't be so nice.
Iceman can't use his powers in such a state because Iceman can only exist as states of water - liquid, solid or gas. Hydrogen and Oxygen aren't one of them.
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Originally posted by demigawd
Pool their powers how? You came up with this fight because you have something in mind about the way this particular arrangement of X-men will work together. But everybody on this roster and about two dozen other X-men were all rendered helpless by Magneto in the opening of Fatal Attractions. No go.Magneto converts Iceman to component molecules by electrolyzing the ice, which converts it to hydrogen and oxygen. Polaris did it to Iceman's ice shields and tore right through them. She could have done the same to Iceman himself if she wanted to. Magneto won't be so nice.
Iceman can't use his powers in such a state because Iceman can only exist as states of water - liquid, solid or gas. Hydrogen and Oxygen aren't one of them.
Current Polaris is at least 75% the power level of pre-ex Mag. Storm and Polaris have previously pooled powers to significantly increase Polaris' magnetic abilities with impressive results(Krakoa) An empowered Polaris would not be something Magneto could toss to the side just like that. Especially after his teaching and the fact that they were linked for so long. She got an insight into how his powers worked and was even able to negate the effects of his powers once he'd regained his and tried to assault her. Polaris could protect her teamates, Bishop could protect himself and loop any magnetic energies sent his way round to his team mate or he could launch an offensive on his own. Iceman could attack from another front.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Current Polaris is at least 75% the power level of pre-ex Mag. Storm and Polaris have previously pooled powers to significantly increase Polaris' magnetic abilities with impressive results(Krakoa) An empowered Polaris would not be something Magneto could toss to the side just like that. Especially after his teaching and the fact that they were linked for so long. She got an insight into how his powers worked and was even able to negate the effects of his powers once he'd regained his and tried to assault her. Polaris could protect her teamates, Bishop could protect himself and loop any magnetic energies sent his way round to his team mate or he could launch an offensive on his own. Iceman could attack from another front.
Where are you getting this 75% number from??? Magneto is not only a hell of a lot smarter than she is, and more combat experienced, he's also received power ups. Polaris does not = an inexperienced female Magneto. His innate power is greater than hers because of his power ups.
And, you're saying "pre-ex Mag". Clearly, they're not fighting "pre-ex Mag", they're fighting current mags, who opens a blackhole and sends them flying through it.
Magneto has shown the ability (even before Excalibur's latest power up) to just...snatch Polaris' ability away from her. He even wrested Storm's lighting away from her while beating down the rest of the X-men, and used her lightning to make himself STRONGER.
I understand and commend your logic in putting this team together to take Magneto, but in the end, it actually backfires...Magneto uses their powers against them and it actually serves to make him more powerful. The only threat here is Iceman, and he's a threat because his powers are less related to Magneto, not more.