Police Cook Nine Iraqis in Sealed Metal Box Under Scorching Sun

but is any of this a surprise?

"West turns blind eye as police put Saddam's torturers back to work "
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-1683578,00.html

we went to war to get them out of power...then we hire them back.
guess it didnt matter what tactics they used, but who's payroll they were on. remember the state of the union speech leading to war? half of george's speech was comdemning of these very people. "cutting out tounges....etc"

well....they're back.

❌ That's just sad........I think they would of gone insane first....

I did read that the Vietnamese put prisoners in cages in water where the rats ate at them alive.....Also was in the movie "The Deer Hunter."

Now wat just a second. I thought these guys were nice naive citizens warped by the evil that was Saddam Hussein. I am sure these men are reformed by now.

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
Now wat just a second. I thought these guys were nice naive citizens warped by the evil that was Saddam Hussein. I am sure these men are reformed by now.

i guess that's what we're supposed to believe.
they took sensativity training 😬

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth

"Forgot"= Something else leaning toward intent and deliberate.

Is that the 'SADAKO the garth's' concise dictionary are you using 😂

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IRAQI POLICE #1: "Busy Day; We caught 11 suspects ; where shall we put them ? "

Iraqi Police #2: "Uhh.....there is a shipping conatiner way back there ; put them there until we process them "

Then they both go home and due to an improper handover between shifts, the detainees become 'lost' until police officers return the next day and realize what happened.

Isnt that difficult for this scenario to happen, is it ? No its not

I should become a lawyer 😄

Originally posted by GCG
Is that the 'SADAKO the garth's' concise dictionary are you using 😂

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IRAQI POLICE #1: "Busy Day; We caught 11 suspects ; where shall we put them ? "

Iraqi Police #2: "Uhh.....there is a shipping conatiner way back there ; put them there until we process them "

Then they both go home and due to an improper handover between shifts, the detainees become 'lost' until police officers return the next day and realize what happened.

Isnt that difficult for this scenario to happen, is it ? No its not

I should become a lawyer 😄

yeah, ok

now why dont you put the leather brief case away and tell us what you really believe happened?

Well it was either being cooked alive or being gassed and having your lungs explode by Saddam. Man those guys just cant get a break.

Lats start with what i dont believe; the article says:

left for 14 hours in the burning Iraqi summer heat.

and then

At about midday, they were put into a metal container and by nightfall eight prisoners were dead and three were in a critical condition.

So how could they possibly have endured 14 hours of blistering heat if the sun sets at 20.30 hrs ? the most is 7 hours.

Well i would grant the fact that Iron/ steel retains heat , but i would also take the fact that Iraqi climate gets very cold by nightfall especially in barren area.

iraq has been in a heat wave. reported teperatures at above 120F
were they left in a heated box for 14 hours straight? as you point out its a possibly misused adjective. does the irresposability of an editor erase the fact?

dude, THEY WERE COOKED ALIVED

please, please, please tell me you're just f'n with me and you are not actually trying to justify using a metal crate as a holding cell in the desert...please?

Originally posted by PVS
yeah, ok

now why dont you put the leather brief case away and tell us what you really believe happened?

If it's the Iraqis, I can believe that's exactly what may have happened. Think about it. If someone pulled you out of your job to do brain surgery or something, you'd probably kill someone. These guys are normal stupid peasants (not calling you stupid, btw) and they are drafted into the police force. It's a stupid mistake and there may have been some ill intent behind it, but I'm not so sure they meant to kill these guys.

But then again, freedom isn't free, so the prisoners probably didn't pay their freedom tax to get out of the box.

Our "humanitarian" efforts are becoming worse every day. It's clear that these people cannot handle democracy in any way, shape, or form. I can't believe Bush's advisors didn't look into this more.

You seriously think i would not condone the usgae of a shipping container in the Iraqi heat as a detaining place ? Of course i do !

****ING ANIMALS ! (If its DELIBERATE)

The thing is that i want to know more about it, before i comment. Its not easy to see all the aspects. The BBC isnt saying much apart from

11 men/ torture/ metal container/ hours of heat.

I am putting the intentionality token on the thread.

wow, this is what happens when you privatize everything, including the training of police and military to private contractors who specialize in mercanaries. the last time we did this it was with a guy named augusto pinochete

That's ****ing horrible.
It's disgusting what some humans are capable of doing.

first off

can we do anything about the heat in iraq?...no...

can we do anything about how the people are detained....yes....lets leave the door open so they can get a bit of air...and hope they stay inside just on trust...im sure they will

3rd

they are scummy terrorist insurrgent pigs and i hope they burn in a hot metal container under 10 suns for all eternity in hell

If they had Union representation, by God, that would've never happened. 😉

Originally posted by jaden101
first off

can we do anything about the heat in iraq?...no...

can we do anything about how the people are detained....yes....lets leave the door open so they can get a bit of air...and hope they stay inside just on trust...im sure they will

3rd

they are scummy terrorist insurrgent pigs and i hope they burn in a hot metal container under 10 suns for all eternity in hell

Well whats wrong with having the door open and having two guys with a couple of M-16s guarding the 'cell...?' (Other than the fact that due to heat conductiveness of the metal box in extreme heat, that they possibly still cook...)

'Insurgency' is a subjective point of view thing here to some extent..
A lot of these people didn't buy into Bush's declaration that the war was over two years ago.. And we nicked their country and killed alot of innocent people, who the "insurgents" are now avenging, from their POV..

Originally posted by jaden101
first off

can we do anything about the heat in iraq?...no...

can we do anything about how the people are detained....yes....lets leave the door open so they can get a bit of air...and hope they stay inside just on trust...im sure they will

3rd

they are scummy terrorist insurrgent pigs and i hope they burn in a hot metal container under 10 suns for all eternity in hell

FIRST: they are suspected insurgents, not terrorists. you know, they were not proven guilty in a court of law. but i guess you just have a gut feeling which allows you to be judge and jury.

SECOND: in a 'free' society do they not have the right to due process? imagine if you were suspected of doing a crime and then 'mistakenly' killed because it was assumed you were 'scummy' and/or a 'terrorist'?

THIRD: an indoor holding cell or even a frikin hole in the ground is an alternative to a metal crate in the desert sun (a f***ing oven)

its a sad world we live in where people dont care about this shit.
i bet if they were white westerners everyone would give out a cry of horror.
sad

i guess you just have a gut feeling which allows you to be judge and jury.

caught red handed firing guns at soldiers...how much more proof is needed?

THIRD: an indoor holding cell or even a frikin hole in the ground is an alternative to a metal crate in the desert sun (a f***ing oven)

good idea...but only if we get them to dig the holes themselves

Originally posted by PVS
FIRST: they are suspected insurgents, not terrorists. you know, they were not proven guilty in a court of law. but i guess you just have a gut feeling which allows you to be judge and jury.

We are in war time. War prisoners don't get the same rights as Americans.

Originally posted by Echuu
We are in war time. War prisoners don't get the same rights as Americans.

ever hear of the geneva convention?

torture is illegal. by allowing the torture of enemy soldiers we put our own soldiers at risk of equal or worse torture as retaliation.