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Started by long pig3 pages

But they never faught each other at all, Strange faught the brotherhood, k.oing Mastermind with one blast.

I was thinking Alpha turned into god hood after realizing Magneto was lying to him and beating Mag's up. He was awesome tho.

I liked how, everytime he used his powers, he would evolve, at first he was like a big monkey, then he turned into humanoid then into alienish then into something godly. Awesome.

Mastermind has Strange at his mercy, all kinds of confused. Xavier had to mentally slap Strange to tell him that Mastermind's illusions are just illusions.

But before they even fought the Brotherhood, Magneto trapped them in magnetic force and left to finish Mutant Alpha. They couldn't get out and Xavier (who was definitely MVP of those two issues) figured out a way to break out. Hulk's strength was ineffective against Magneto's forcefield and Strange's magic didn't help, either.

Uh, no.
Strange was attacking the illusions, he figured out they were illusions, then he used his own illusions(Strange created 5 dupes of himself, mastermind couldn't tell the difference) to fight mastermind, then easily K.O'd him with one hit.

They weren't in a forcefield, they were in a cave, they dug out.

You do realize this was in 74', way way way before Strange got most of his relics and power-ups, this was even before the 5000 year war.

I don't even think he was Sorcerer Supreme yet.

Strange was attacking the illusions and wondering why none of his spells were working. It was Xavier who told him to look past them. Even after Xavier told him, Strange said, "But how can I know for sure?". Eventually, he trusted Xavier and took out Mastermind, but you were making it out to be some walk in the park for Strange. It wasn't.

They were in a forcefield. Magneto put them there. How do you think they got in the cave in the first place? That was when Xavier used that whole hokey, "Focus your mental energies through me and we can disrupt the magnetic waves Magneto is using to hold us here". You're telling me you don't remember that? I'm not making it up, lol.

I acknowledge he wasn't Sorcere Supreme yet. Magneto was a little old man at the time. Nobody really reached the heights they're at today.

It's been a looooonggggggggggggg time since I read it, don't get me wrong, not calling you a liar, just that's how I remember it, I could be wrong on a few things.

Not a walk in the park, Strange was exhausted, but he did make illusions of himself and k.o mastermind with one bolt, I remember that much.

Do you remember the part where Magneto used Alpha and stranded the defenders in the cave, and they dug out?
I really don't remember a force field at all. But again, this was 12-13 years ago since I read it.

How old are you longpig?

23, my pop had tons of dr.strange comics I used to read when I was around 10 or so.
So, you can't be too mad at me for forgetting plot lines from when I was 10.

Actually taking out Mastermind isn't that impressive...he's just a human.

I actually have 15 and 16 as part of a trade paperback. I just now dug it out. The line up is Nighthawk, Hulk, Strange and Valkyre. Xavier comes to them for help in beating Magneto and the Brotherhood. They go to help. Mastermind creates orange monsters and Val, Hulk, Nighthawk and Strange are attacking it and nothing is working. Xavier tells Strange to calm down, it's an illusion. Strange doesn't believe Xavier and keeps attacking. Even though it's technically an illusion, they're all acting like they're getting beaten up (don't know why). Xavier, who gave up trying to convince them, uses his power to disperse the illusion. They continue when suddenly they're all hit out of nowhere by Magneto, who knocks them all out.

They wake up a bit later, trapped in a magnetic field Magneto erected around them. Magneto explains some long plan to build Alpha, he does a bunch of "last time in my life" exposition to explain what he's been up to recently, then leaves and goes about his business.

Cue the Deus Ex Machina from Xavier, and they're able to combine their mental energies through Xavier who telepathically shuts down the field (????). Magneto senses what happened and send his Brotherhood to take them out. Hulk vs. Blob, Strange vs. Mastermind for round 2, Xavier and Nighthawk vs. Loreli. Strange STILL falls for Mastermind's tricks, and starts getting fatigued because nothing he's doing is working and he's too paranoid that one monster might be real. He's using something called the "Flames of Faltine" to dispurse the illusions, but more keep coming. So eventually he makes illusions of himself, which confuses Mastermind, and then Strange blasts him. Everybody else wins their fights. By then, Magneto has finished Alpha. That's #15.

#16 is where they get owned by Alpha. Magneto buried the Defenders under rubble and used Alpha to teleport himself and the brotherhood out. The Defenders dug out eventually. They track down Alpha and Magneto to the UN, where Magneto tells Alpha to destroy them. That's when Alpha refuses and blah blah blah, you know the rest.

Sorry I don't have a scanner, but I assure you that's how it went. I hold it in my hands! 🙂

Sorry I don't have a scanner, but I assure you that's how it went. I hold it in my hands! 🙂

I hope youre talking about the comic there?! 😱

I believe you, I just don't remember the force field, though I do remember Xavier saying something to Strange like "Don't try to break through, that's not the way to do it.", he was probably refering to the field.

I also liked how Blob got cocky telling Hulk how he can't be moved, then Hulk breaks the ground underneath him and punches him in the gut, taking him out of the fight.

I never liked the Blob.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Sorry I don't have a scanner, but I assure you that's how it went. I hold it in my hands! 🙂

I hope youre talking about the comic there?! 😱

I dunno, he might not be.....he really seems to like that issue...😛

Young dirty bastards!

Originally posted by demigawd
Wanda was unconscious and Magneto was actually using her power for himself in the last issues of Excalibur. Wanda's reality warping allowed her to alter elements in the existing world -and that seemed to be the limits of what she could do, even in the final Avenger's story. In close proximity to Magneto, he, she or they were able to actually change the entire structure of the multiverse. That goes beyond basic reality warping...it's changing the nature of "is" itself. It was postulated that it was only something that could be done by the marriage of Magneto's and Wanda's powers. Neither could do it on their own.

That's right, bitches! Magneto + Wanda = Infinity Gauntlet!

Hardly the IG.

And Wanda's more signficant of the two. Odin, Tyrant, Surfer, Galactus, cosmic cube wielder, and anyone who can manipulate Magneto's powers can do the same using Wanda.