Storm Vs Colossus

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Since when does she have enough force to drive something as large as him down into the earth's crust? He isn't a piece of paper, he has a LOT more surface area. Plus, far enough into the earth to hit lava? No, not ever going to happen, not by Storm. Flash freeze? So you're telling me she's going to drop the temperature enough to stop Colossus? How low is she going to drop the temp, and provide me some evidence she can get it low enough to stop him, cause he's done 0 degrees before, easy.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Actually, speed can very easily lead to power.

Using physics (which I somehow passed over two years ago), I know that the faster something goes, the harder it's impact will be.

Let's use...I dunno...a baseball. Small. Weak. Stationary.

Let's give it a strong hit from a bat now, or even a strong throw into a person.

Baseball. Still small. Not so weak anymore. Moving very fast.

Hell, plain ol' straw caught in hurricane winds has been known to pierce and break through BRICK WALLS.

Explain that one with your argument.

Now then. . . Collosus eventually breaks through into the lava. Multiple slammings if need be. . .

After he gets out of the lava THEN you flash freeze. . .

Originally posted by Creshosk
Now then. . . Collosus eventually breaks through into the lava. Multiple slammings if need be. . .

After he gets out of the lava THEN you flash freeze. . .

Haha, wait, wait, WHAT?!?

Man, you don't get it. A piece of straw can only pierce bricks for 2 reasons;

1) The straw has a VERY small surface area, when it hits the brick, all of its force is on a very small amount of area, thus the amount of pressure is much greater.

2) Bricks are NOT hard to pierce. You can hammer a nail into a brick, you can't hammer a nail into a piece of sheet steel.

Do you know how far down you have to go to get to lava? Do you know how thick the earth's crust is? Do you know how HARD the crust is? The earth's crust makes cement and steel look like balsa wood. It's under thousands of pounds of pressure at all times, there is no way Colossus is going to get that far into the ground, even falling at terminal velocity multiple times.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Haha, wait, wait, WHAT?!?

Man, you don't get it. A piece of straw can only pierce bricks for 2 reasons;

1) The straw has a VERY small surface area, when it hits the brick, all of its force is on a very small amount of area, thus the amount of pressure is much greater.

2) Bricks are NOT hard to pierce. You can hammer a nail into a brick, you can't hammer a nail into a piece of sheet steel.

Do you know how far down you have to go to get to lava? Do you know how thick the earth's crust is? Do you know how HARD the crust is? The earth's crust makes cement and steel look like balsa wood. It's under thousands of pounds of pressure at all times, there is no way Colossus is going to get that far into the ground, even falling at terminal velocity multiple times.

Think about those two statements . . .

The scale is simply larger . . . Doesn't detract from my point.

First, WHY IS THERE NO STALEMATE OPTION!!!? This is going to be a 100 page argument.

Piercing is a small surface area, doing extreme force. Pressure=Massx Area. Which is why a pin needle can pierce your skin with little force, but a hammer cannot.

Terminal velocity, the faster Coll goes down, the further in the earth he can get.

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. The further he drives into the earth, the harder it is for him to drive further. Sure he is like a needle, but the fact of the matter is, he is greatly multiplying his force in the earth, like terminal velocity.

That means storm would need SOME HYPER VELOCITY, for this to even be considered an option, and whats to stop peter from lying horizontal, and blunting the attempt. That being said I see this as a stalemate.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
First, WHY IS THERE NO STALEMATE OPTION!!!? This is going to be a 100 page argument.

Piercing is a small surface area, doing extreme force. Pressure=Massx Area. Which is why a pin needle can pierce your skin with little force, but a hammer cannot.

Terminal velocity, the faster Coll goes down, the further in the earth he can get.

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. The further he drives into the earth, the harder it is for him to drive further. Sure he is like a needle, but the fact of the matter is, he is greatly multiplying his force in the earth, like terminal velocity.

That means storm would need SOME HYPER VELOCITY, for this to even be considered an option, and whats to stop peter from lying horizontal, and blunting the attempt. That being said I see this as a stalemate.

What is this a question to?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
What is this a question to?

He probably doesn't have a choice in the mater since he isn't controlling the winds. . .

No, this is once he is on his way to the magma or lava, which isn't happening by the way.

He could lie flat, therefore blunting the piercing, whirlwinds don't generate underground.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
No, this is once he is on his way to the magma or lava, which isn't happening by the way.

He could lie flat, therefore blunting the piercing, whirlwinds don't generate underground.

THat wouldn't make much of a difference, as the wind would do little to effect the metal at THAT type of matter on that force, peter could still start to lie flat WAY before he reached the magma.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
THat wouldn't make much of a difference, as the wind would do little to effect the metal at THAT type of matter on that force, peter could still start to lie flat WAY before he reached the magma.

Does he have an undergrond chamber?

If so what to stop from increasing the air pressure in the chamber and leaving a patch where it isn't to increase pressure into a certain direction?

Tell me what happens if he keeps getting slammed into this material that you're sure he won't break at high velosity?

Either he breaks through or he's taking an incredible beating. . .

Not by what storm produces, its that simple, he takes juggy hits, a tornado would just piss him off, like a whirlwind, he's not making it to the earths core.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Not by what storm produces, its that simple, he takes juggy hits, a tornado would just piss him off, like a whirlwind, he's not making it to the earths core.

Kind odd that you try to have it both ways. . . Don't you think?

What the hell are all of you people talking about? Nobody is making any sense.

I hate this thread.

Stalemate, with colossus having more potential to do harm to Storm than vice-versa.

Originally posted by demigawd
What the hell are all of you people talking about? Nobody is making any sense.

I hate this thread.

Stalemate, with colossus having more potential to do harm to Storm than vice-versa.

Originally posted by demigawd
What the hell are all of you people talking about? Nobody is making any sense.

I hate this thread.

Stalemate, with colossus having more potential to do harm to Storm than vice-versa.

I said, stalemate.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Eventually Juggy knocks him out. That's why he does. . . and what with this sudden "Oh, I'm not going to take into account the brain bruising thig"

Kind odd that you try to have it both ways. . . Don't you think?

My point is, that jugg is more than some winds, not that colossus BEAT HIM, he wont.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Except for that potential is nullified by that whole, he has no way to touch her, and as I've shown can hurl him against some pretty damned strng things at incredible velocity. . .

Then why are you implying storm can win?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
My point is, that jugg is more than some winds, not that colossus BEAT HIM, he wont.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Then why are you implying storm can win?