Storm Vs Colossus

sun lasers?Where's this crap upgrade from?Since when Storm can do it?

^^kevil, stormVS gene nation #2

Since when does she have enough force to drive something as large as him down into the earth's crust? He isn't a piece of paper, he has a LOT more surface area. Plus, far enough into the earth to hit lava? No, not ever going to happen, not by Storm. Flash freeze? So you're telling me she's going to drop the temperature enough to stop Colossus? How low is she going to drop the temp, and provide me some evidence she can get it low enough to stop him, cause he's done 0 degrees before, easy.

^^so your saying colossus weighs more than a building? storm lifted a building with ease in contest of champions 2. and I think the person meant that she could flaas-freeze his body, like encase it in an ice tomb. she is also very able to flash-freeze things, she did it in extreme.

and colossus has a melting point right? lightning can easily go up to 50,000 degrees.

Originally posted by Creshosk
You're tired. Go, sleep, everything will be more coherent when you wake up.

You really should take your own advice.

Since when can Storm pick peter up off the ground at the bottom of a pit that he formed with his own body? Do you know how fast terminal veloctiy is? Do you know how deep the earth's crust is, and how thick it is? You really have no idea what you're talking about.

Picking up colossus isn't going to be as easy as all this nonsense you're making it out to be, it's an abandoned citiscape, what's to stop him from getting underground into the sewer system? He's 100% safe there, not a damn thing Storm can do to him. Hell, if he has half a brain, he'll let Storm beat the crap out of him, she's going to get exhausted long before he gets hurt. No way is Storm going to be able to use supernatural winds for over an hour, because there is no way he's hitting lava in under an hour.

*****Since when can Storm pick peter up off the ground at the bottom of a pit that he formed with his own body? Do you know how fast terminal veloctiy is? Do you know how deep the earth's crust is, and how thick it is? You really have no idea what you're talking about.*****

^^if you are responding to me, i never said she was going to get him to earths crust.

*****Picking up colossus isn't going to be as easy as all this nonsense you're making it out to be*****

^^really, what's to stop her from doing it from the beginning?
and all she has to do is use those sun laser things to take him out. colossus has a melting point, and the sun would more than likely melt him.

Originally posted by stormfront13
^^so your saying colossus weighs more than a building? storm lifted a building with ease in contest of champions 2. and I think the person meant that she could flaas-freeze his body, like encase it in an ice tomb. she is also very able to flash-freeze things, she did it in extreme.

and colossus has a melting point right? lightning can easily go up to 50,000 degrees.

I'm saying Storm hasn't ever driven a building into the liquid magma inside the Earth before, not that she can't lift Colossus. If he is out in the open, she can toss him around, but driving him down into the earth isn't going to be as easy as you guys are trying to make it seem. She's going to flash freeze Colossus? I highly doubt that.

Lightning can get up to 50k degrees, that's great, 50k degrees for a split second. You're saying storm is going to keep zapping him over and over and over? I'm going to say the electricity is going to be grounded and it's just going to annoy the hell out of him. She's going to get tired long before he gets hurt.

By the way, what the hell was the thread starter thinking? What the hell is Colossus going to do vs Storm? It's just going to be Storm using everything she's got on colossus until she gets tired and flies far away to recoup, while Colossus picks his shiney ass off the ground and waits for her to come back.

Storm isn't getting colossus to the earth's core, period.

Nataku was responding to Creshosk.

*****Lightning can get up to 50k degrees, that's great, 50k degrees for a split second.*****

not when storm keeps the electricity flowing through her hands.

Originally posted by stormfront13
*****Lightning can get up to 50k degrees, that's great, 50k degrees for a split second.*****

not when storm keeps the electricity flowing through her hands.

I'm glad you said the electricity instead of the lightning. You're getting smarter.

I'm not an avid Colossus fan (616, that is) so I can't tell you exactly what his limits are, but I can say this, if he's as durable as I believe him to be, I can easily see him taking it as Storm exhausts herself on him. What's to stop him from hurling things at her while she's zapping him, by the way?

What's to stop him from hurling things at her while she's zapping him, by the way?

^^considering storm knows colossus, she will fight at a distance. it will take time for him to throw things, his body language will give it away so she will know that he is going to throw something, she could easilyu create a gust of wind to knock the object off course. and he has a melting point, one storm can exploit

Originally posted by stormfront13
What's to stop him from hurling things at her while she's zapping him, by the way?

^^considering storm knows colossus, she will fight at a distance. it will take time for him to throw things, his body language will give it away so she will know that he is going to throw something, she could easilyu create a gust of wind to knock the object off course. and he has a melting point, one storm can exploit

1) About throwing objects, if the object is small enough, thrown with as much force as he can muster, no wind she can summon up in time will make a difference. If he's a good throw, he'll be able to lead his shot (throw where she'll most likely move) but considering his power isn't 'Toss shit hard and accurately', odds are he's going to miss.

2) Show me proof of a melting point. She can't melt him if she's spending all her time flying around, trying to avoid airborne metal.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
I'm glad you said the electricity instead of the lightning. You're getting smarter.

I'm not an avid Colossus fan (616, that is) so I can't tell you exactly what his limits are, but I can say this, if he's as durable as I believe him to be, I can easily see him taking it as Storm exhausts herself on him. What's to stop him from hurling things at her while she's zapping him, by the way?

And you know, she doesn't need to batter him against the ground if she's able to keep lightning on him long enough for him to heat up really high, and then flash freeze him.

Originally posted by Creshosk
She can do multiple things at the same time.

And you know, she doesn't need to batter him against the ground if she's able to keep lightning on him long enough for him to heat up really high, and then flash freeze him.

Let's see some scans or issue numbers of Storm concentrating on exerting herself to such extremes at once, because, the best I've seen Storm do is blow wind about and use lightning bolts at the same time. I've never seen her hold a person as strong as Colossus in place, and continuously exert extreme amounts of power to electric shocks at the same time.

In his armored form Colossus is highly resistant to most forms of bodily harm. His armor is capable of withstanding ballistic penetration, including that of a 110 millimeter Howitzer shell. He could survive a collision with a loaded, one-ton flatbed truck at 100 miles per hour or an explosion of 450 pounds of TNT. He can survive extremes of temperature from 70 degrees above absolute zero (-390 degrees Fahrenheit) to approximately 9000 Fahrenheit. However, it is theorized that above the latter temperature, his armored form would begin to melt. Colossus's armored form cannot rust under normal Earth conditions.

from marvel directory

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Let's see some scans or issue numbers of Storm concentrating on exerting herself to such extremes at once, because, the best I've seen Storm do is blow wind about and use lightning bolts at the same time. I've never seen her hold a person as strong as Colossus in place, and continuously exert extreme amounts of power to electric shocks at the same time.

Why would she hold him in place?

"blow wind about and use lightning bolts at the same time."

Dodge and super heat him. . . then flash freeze.

Storm has the psionic ability to control the weather over limited areas. She can fly by creating winds strong enough to support her weight. Storm has limited immunity to extreme heat and cold.

From marvel dictionary

I don't see anything about doing things like creating non-weather related abilities, such as electricity from her hands, or sun rays.

Point? Marvel dictionary is useless. It's outdated and only a general idea of character's powers.

Let's see an example of Colossus melting.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Why would she hold him in place?

"blow wind about and use lightning bolts at the same time."

Dodge and super heat him. . . then flash freeze.

One little zap isn't going to super heat him, she's going to have to keep zapping him, and if he isn't grounded, an electrical current should not electricute him. A lightning bolt doesn't work this way, as it starts at the ground, shoots up, then the return current flashes back down. Thus the ground is already established. I've held live wires, and as long as you aren't grounded, you don't feel anything. You touch a ground, the electricity jumps from the starting point, through your body, to the ground. It can burn the point of entry and exit, if you hold it long enough. It also makes your muscles go numb, and sometimes they twitch. But, that really won't make much of a difference, since he probably doesn't know that.

I stand by the fact that I haven't seen any evidence of Storm being able to superheat Colossus in such a short period of time that he won't be able to respond, or without exhausting herself.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Storm has the psionic ability to control the weather over limited areas. She can fly by creating winds strong enough to support her weight. Storm has limited immunity to extreme heat and cold.

From marvel dictionary

I don't see anything about doing things like creating non-weather related abilities, such as electricity from her hands, or sun rays.

Point? Marvel dictionary is useless. It's outdated and only a general idea of character's powers.

Let's see an example of Colossus melting.

Originally posted by Creshosk
He doesn't need to melt, just super heat and flash freeze, like was done to him before, like what happened to Doom in the FF movie.

When did it happen to him?

Doom and Colossus are two completely different people.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
One little zap isn't going to super heat him, she's going to have to keep zapping him, and if he isn't grounded, an electrical current should not electricute him. A lightning bolt doesn't work this way, as it starts at the ground, shoots up, then the return current flashes back down. Thus the ground is already established. I've held live wires, and as long as you aren't grounded, you don't feel anything. You touch a ground, the electricity jumps from the starting point, through your body, to the ground. It can burn the point of entry and exit, if you hold it long enough. It also makes your muscles go numb, and sometimes they twitch. But, that really won't make much of a difference, since he probably doesn't know that.

I stand by the fact that I haven't seen any evidence of Storm being able to superheat Colossus in such a short period of time that he won't be able to respond, or without exhausting herself.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I don'ty think you get the point, she's not going to electricute him, she's going to immobilize him. . .

With what?

Originally posted by Nataku8188
When did it happen to him?

Doom and Colossus are two completely different people.

Pyro picked him up with a bird of fire til he was white hot, then dropped him into a spot where avalanche tilted liquid nitrogen trucks into him.

Both were made out of metal, both were fused solid. . .