*****such as electricity from her hands, or sun rays.*****
lightning is electricity, and it says that storm has the ability to control weather related affects. lightning = electricity. clouds are part of the weather, storm uses the glassine fragments in the clouds to reflectt them off the sun as lasers. what is your point? by using the elements of the weather she can accomplish these feats
Originally posted by Creshosk
Pyro picked him up with a bird of fire til he was white hot, then dropped him into a spot where avalanche tilted liquid nitrogen trucks into him.Both were made out of metal, both were fused solid. . .
LMAO!
Ok, ok, this is great. Pyro, who manipulates ONLY fire, and LIQUID NITROGEN!!! Oh man, Storm can't replicate either of those things. Liquid nitrogen is ~ -340 degrees F man. Pyro can increase the intesity of fire far beyond anything natural, heh, that fire was DEFINITLY extremely hot, something Storm isn't going to be replicating.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
LMAO!Ok, ok, this is great. Pyro, who manipulates ONLY fire, and LIQUID NITROGEN!!! Oh man, Storm can't replicate either of those things. Liquid nitrogen is ~ -340 degrees F man. Pyro can increase the intesity of fire far beyond anything natural, heh, that fire was DEFINITLY extremely hot, something Storm isn't going to be replicating.
Uncanny X-Men 177: Rogue has since joined the X-Men, and the BoEM wants to get her back, believing she has been mentally coerced by Charles Xavier. Pyro and Avalanche attack Colossus (and nearly kill him) as a diversion. Pyro merrily burns Colossus until he's been heated super-hot, though the latter's resistance wears Pyro out and he's forced to drop him---an interesting early limitation to his powers that was really only seen twice.
There were Liquid nitro trucks where pyro dropped him. Avalanch tilted the ground to slam into him.
Originally posted by stormfront13
*****such as electricity from her hands, or sun rays.*****lightning is electricity, and it says that storm has the ability to control weather related affects. lightning = electricity. clouds are part of the weather, storm uses the glassine fragments in the clouds to reflectt them off the sun as lasers. what is your point? by using the elements of the weather she can accomplish these feats
Lightning is an electric discharge, not electricity. There is a difference. Lightning happens once, and uses up many gases and things in the air, which is why it almost never strikes the same exact spot twice. Electricity can follow the same current forever, is much cooler, and does not burn away the same gaseous elements as Lightning.
Thus, they are not the same thing. That is why writers are on crack, these guys aren't scientists, they don't know these things, they just say "She controls weather? Lightning out the hands!" which isn't the same thing as an electrical current, which is what she does.
Do you know what glassine fragments are? Do you know what Glassine is? The writer who that effect up is on crack. Glassine is man-made, it's a substance they use with paper to preserve art and shit. It prevents the passage of air and grease. So, now clouds contain fragments of glassine paper? No, they don't. That writer was really stupid to say that. Glassine is made out of freaking tree pulp. What the hell is it doing in the clouds?
A lot of what Storm does is complete bullshit that writer's make up because they lack something better to let her do, because if all she did was manipulate the weather like she's supposed to, she wouldn't be half as powerful as she is.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Uncanny X-Men 177: Rogue has since joined the X-Men, and the BoEM wants to get her back, believing she has been mentally coerced by Charles Xavier. Pyro and Avalanche attack Colossus (and nearly kill him) as a diversion. Pyro merrily burns Colossus until he's been heated super-hot, though the latter's resistance wears Pyro out and he's forced to drop him---an interesting early limitation to his powers that was really only seen twice.There were Liquid nitro trucks where pyro dropped him. Avalanch tilted the ground to slam into him.
That helps my argument even more. Pyro was using SO much energy to heat up Colossus that he he wore himself out, and Colossus was still not melting! This guy who uses his power to ONLY MANIPULATE FLAMES, and can INCREASE THEIR INTENSITY exhausted himself trying to melt Colossus, then avalanche had to use liquid nitrogen, which is ~ -340 degrees F ... Storm isn't going to be replicating that.
Originally posted by Nataku8188You missed the point, what happens to mmetal that is super heated and then cooled off very quickly?
That helps my argument even more. Pyro was using SO much energy to heat up Colossus that he he wore himself out, and Colossus was still not melting! This guy who uses his power to ONLY MANIPULATE FLAMES, and can INCREASE THEIR INTENSITY exhausted himself trying to melt Colossus, then avalanche had to use liquid nitrogen, which is ~ -340 degrees F ... Storm isn't going to be replicating that.
Originally posted by stormfront13
the proof comes from the writers, they made his character to have a melting point, you know that storm can exploit it, but you refuse to believe it. you yourself even said you aren't much of a fan of colossus, it is possible there might be something you don't know
No no, you refuse to except the fact that your favorite character is nothing but a fake. She does things that she shouldn't be able to do, that aren't even possible no matter what world you're in. You refuse to give me evidence that Colossus can be melt, because as far as I've seen nothing melts him. It's just THEORIZED. I can theorize all I want, and still have it proven wrong.
You missed the point, what happens to mmetal that is super heated and then cooled off very quickly?
No, I get it. Metal cracks. What happens when Storm can't replicate those conditions? Oh wait... she just wastes a bunch of energy.
No no, you refuse to except the fact that your favorite character is nothing but a fake. She does things that she shouldn't be able to do, that aren't even possible no matter what world you're in. You refuse to give me evidence that Colossus can be melt, because as far as I've seen nothing melts him. It's just THEORIZED. I can theorize all I want, and still have it proven wrong.
^^this is the world of comics, what weather does in the real world doesn't matter to the writers. pyro basically melted him, the steel combined, one was already weakened, the other fuly combined. storm can easily make it hotter then 5 X's the surface of the sun. she will be able to exploit his weakness.
Originally posted by Nataku8188How hot is lightning? Very hot.
No, I get it. Metal cracks. What happens when Storm can't replicate those conditions? Oh wait... she just wastes a bunch of energy.
How long would it take? Not long
You are aware she's done flash freezes before yes? Probably not.
You think that she couldn't heat him up and then flash freeze him. . .
It doesn't NEED to be those extremes.
Originally posted by Creshosk
How hot is lightning? Very hot.How long would it take? Not long
You are aware she's done flash freezes before yes? Probably not.
You think that she couldn't heat him up and then flash freeze him. . .
It doesn't NEED to be those extremes.
You do know LIGHTNING isn't flowing from her fingertips? You know that LIGHTNING only heats up its direct course, right? So his whole body isn't going to be hot. Just part of him. If she is using a prolonged electrical current, to cover his whole body, it is far below 50k degrees, and isn't going to super heat him for a long period of time.
It DOES need to be those extremes.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
You do know LIGHTNING isn't flowing from her fingertips? You know that LIGHTNING only heats up its direct course, right? So his whole body isn't going to be hot. Just part of him. If she is using a prolonged electrical current, to cover his whole body, it is far below 50k degrees, and isn't going to super heat him for a long period of time.It DOES need to be those extremes.
A bolt of lightning can reach temperatures approaching 28,000 kelvins (50,000 degrees Fahrenheit) in a split second. This is about five times hotter than the surface of the sun. The heat of lightning which strikes loose soil or sandy regions of the ground may fuse the soil or sand into glass channels called fulgurites. These are sometimes found under the sandy surfaces of beaches and golf courses, or in desert regions. Fulgurites are evidence that lightning spreads out into branching channels when it strikes the ground.
I ask you those questions again. . . I'm not talking about piddly little hand lightning.