You really should learn to piss off, make a ****ing post worth reading or just **** off already. Seriously, is this your only goal in live? Posting in forums trying to piss people off, if so congratulations go screw your dog in the ass again to celebrate you pulled it off. If you have any better reason to be alive then start doing that already. Or at least make a thread about Kotor 2 and noobs stop destroying this one.
Originally posted by Human Vader
Now hold on, much like we don't the extent of Sion's "invincibility", we also don't know what it takes for Nihilus to "eat" something through the Force. Perhaps it make take some time, prehaps he has to somehow meditate, anythings possible, since we aren't told exactly how he "eats" things in the game. I mean it could just be an extended form of Force Drain, meaning more experienced and powerful characters like Luke for example, would be able to fight it off. It's hard to decide on this battle because we don't know enough about Nihilus' "eating" abilities.
Lord Vader's right. Just because it hints at it a little in the game doesn't mean he's unstoppable. We never see him "eat" anyone.
His own power corrupted and weakened him according to the game and that's why the Exile could beat him. I don't see any reason why stronger characters couldn't either.
Originally posted by Fishy
All evidence shows against it- Jedi faced him and died when he isn't even strong. He would lose without his eating thing.
- He ate an entire planet filled with force users and Jedi and they didn't notice him.
- When the Exile absorbs the force he does it in a second, Nihilus is far more powerful in it then he is.
I think that says enough
He did not corrupt his power, he had no choice in the matter. Nihilus wanted to eat him but could not do so. The exile was a wound in the force already you can't eat nothing and make it nothing. Its impossible, so thats why Nihilus lost. If the exile would have been normal, just as normal as any normal person then Nihilus would have owned his ass.
Originally posted by Darth Kronos
Eporor Revan i think Nihilus is Kinda weak..like the exile i played with (the asian chick with the beads in her blueish black hair) i beat Nihilus without healing or Enlightenment so..the whole corrupting power was smart and correct but the exile didn't really need it
How easily you beat a game character doesn't mean spit for their abilities. In KOTOR II, you can level up indefinately at the Korriban tomb of Ludo Kressh, meaning I could be a level 40 Sith and beat Kreia with three hits, but she's still superior to three jedi masters. Also, Revan has difficulty (depending on your equipment, game stats, and such) defeating some people in KOTOR I, and yet he could (If we were to apply his actual talent) beat that whole game scenario by himself with just a vibroblade. Don't rely on your game play experience for rational reasons on this subforum. Ahem.
Responding to Janus' first post:
Firstly, that is mere speculation an not proven. Second, he doesn't always try to feed on the Exile, just like you don't necessarily have to take his mask. Surely he would've just eaten Visas if the Exile failed. Next, when he does try to absorb the Exile, and the Exile specifically says "Even now the hunger is consuming you. Just as Kreia knew it would."
My theory: Nihilus hadn't fed in so long his power had considerably weakened and by that time the Exile was too powerful and could resist the effect. I don't know if you noticed but when he uses drain, it does next to nothing.
Again, the Exile is a wound in the Force. He cannot be drawn upon; in fact, he draws upon others, as the Jedi masters say and even Kreia hints at. Now, Visas can be drained dry, and easily too. Canderous is not even visible to Nihilus' hungry eyes, but it is not the hunger that defeats Nihilus. It simply drives him to try and feed from any source, and the source was the exile. And the exile's natural immunity to Nihilus' drain is exactly why he is chosen to beat the sith lord, and why Kreia herself just didn't whup Nihilus' ass.
Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Again, the Exile is a wound in the Force. He cannot be drawn upon; in fact, he draws upon others, as the Jedi masters say and even Kreia hints at. Now, Visas can be drained dry, and easily too. Canderous is not even visible to Nihilus' hungry eyes, but it is not the hunger that defeats Nihilus. It simply drives him to try and feed from any source, and the source was the exile. And the exile's natural immunity to Nihilus' drain is exactly why he is chosen to beat the sith lord, and why Kreia herself just didn't whup Nihilus' ass.
Now you're going against what it said directly in the game. Kreia even knew the hunger was consuming him. Next, I don't see how you can say the Exile can't be drawn from. So he's a wound but so is Nihilus, doesn't mean you have special immunities. secondly, yes the Exile redeveloped his connection to the Force more quickly because of the bonds he made with his companions but also from all the enemies he defeated. Lastly, Force drain DOES work on the Exile whether from Nihilus or anyone else.
You're starting to bore me with the same song and dance, Emperor. Now, I know you're particular about playing devil's advocate. I respect that. But I am NOT going against the game. I've beaten KOTOR II easily eight times. I would HOPE I would get the big picture. And I am not the only person who shares this view; I'm just the only one arguing with you right now. Here's my offer:
I won't budge on my position one bit until you can prove to me (to even make me second guess) that it was the hunger DIRECTLY that made Nihilus weak and not trying to drain the Exile. Feel free to take your time.
I'm sorry master, but i have to go with Janus on this one. The Exile is immune to certain things that would affect him through the Force. This is shown when Nihilus tries to eat him and when Kreia tries to use Force Waves to kill him as she did the jeedai masters. the force waves knocked him out because he was linked to the force quite a bit, but still not truly dependent on it, thatshow he survived both Sith Lords. As Janus said, there was nothing for Nihilus to feed on because the Exile didnt gain back all his Force sensitivity until after he killed Nihilus.