Uh, the game? It says that yet nothing about the Exile being immune to all drain life powers even though he's clearly not. Talk to Kreia about Nihilus and she says something like that. There's way too little on Nihilus for either of us to 'prove' much at all. You can't prove he can eat anyone, it's just your opinion.
Now if you want 'proof', then the closest thing I can offer is to talk to Kreia with enough influence, ask her about the Sith who hunt us and then ask about Nihilus, follow all of the options. You'll get your answers there.
Already did. Hell, I know the infinite Kreia loop. I got everything out of her. And it's not drain life, it's drain force, or more properly (Since it's not an ability fit into the game mechanics) it's drain essence. The animation is like drain life or drain force, but it is neither. And if Nihilus' hunger would destroy him, why the need for an eventual confrontation, as Kreia has said so many times? And why would the Exile need to? Why would she or Sion or even Revan just not destroy Nihilus, if his power is so slow and can be blocked?
Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Already did. Hell, I know the infinite Kreia loop. I got everything out of her. And it's not drain life, it's drain force, or more properly (Since it's not an ability fit into the game mechanics) it's drain essence. The animation is like drain life or drain force, but it is neither. And if Nihilus' hunger would destroy him, why the need for an eventual confrontation, as Kreia has said so many times? And why would the Exile need to? Why would she or Sion or even Revan just not destroy Nihilus, if his power is so slow and can be blocked?
Kreia says several times that the power is consuming him and will eventually kill him. She wants the Exile to kill him because if Nihilus isn't stopped, he will feed on the Republic and the galaxy eventually before his inevitable death. Now, she also says that the process is sometimes slow, as with his crew. All this is in the follow up and is worth hearing again.
Lord Vader: You are forgiven. You can express your opinions as you very well should, just support them well my powerful apprentice.
Yes, there really is no evidence to support either theory (though I think there's more leaning toward mine since Kreia and the Exile believe it, but not enough evidence I guess) I think it really comes down to opinions here. If you believe Nihilus can't drain everyone instantly then NJO Luke wins. If you do believe that than Nihilus wins.
Yes but how did the Exile survive Kreia's force waves? The basis of that attack is to severe the force users connection to the force, thus killed him by taking away the very thing he depends on to survive. But the Exile didnt die, why is that? Because he was not connected to the force. The same theory can be applied to hy he survived Nihilus "eating". Thats not substantial evidence, but I think it's better than Kreia's word, she tends to contradict herself quite a bit.
Kreia does contradict herself at times, but the force waves has me slightly confused. Are you talking about the end when she uses that power that looks like drain life? If so then it's quite clear that she meant the Exile to live, since she bends down and continues to talk to him instead of stabbing him with a lightsaber or something.
Good point. I don't think she hit him with the wave; just paralyzed him. She could not kill the Exile with the bond still so strong. I believe (And this is just IMO) that the bond was severed because A) Kreia went fully to the dark side, which is proven to severe force bonds in Eu before and B) Nihilus is defeated and the Exile becomes whole, reestablishing his connection with the Force.
That reminds me: Emperor, weren't you on the little Fishy-led group that brought that theory to this forum?
Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Good point. I don't think she hit him with the wave; just paralyzed him. She could not kill the Exile with the bond still so strong. I believe (And this is just IMO) that the bond was severed because A) Kreia went fully to the dark side, which is proven to severe force bonds in Eu before and B) Nihilus is defeated and the Exile becomes whole, reestablishing his connection with the Force.That reminds me: Emperor, weren't you on the little Fishy-led group that brought that theory to this forum?
I don't agree with either for a couple reasons. A) Kreia forces the Exile to go after her or she will simply kill herself which will kill the Exile as well. It's shown better in dark side but that is a fact. B) The Exile has reestablished HIS connection to the Force, it says so dozens of times during the game by different people. His bonds made him stronger, but he could feel the Force himself and not just use what others have. Otherwise, when he goes after Nihilus, he should only be able to use Visas' power and therefore be as weak as her right? And why would that stop Nihilus from instantly eating the Force that's passing through him that isn't his but he can still use?
And no I was not on that group, I am basically the leader against it actually. Fishy and I have debated about it several times already.
Originally posted by Emperor Revan
Kreia says several times that the power is consuming him and will eventually kill him. She wants the Exile to kill him because if Nihilus isn't stopped, he will feed on the Republic and the galaxy eventually before his inevitable death. Now, she also says that the process is sometimes slow, as with his crew. All this is in the follow up and is worth hearing again.Lord Vader: You are forgiven. You can express your opinions as you very well should, just support them well my powerful apprentice.
Just asnwer me one question.
Kreia is almost as powerful as the Exile if not more powerful. She was defeated in half a second without Nihilus trying. The Exile was not more powerful then Kreia was when he faced Nihilus so why could he kill him when Kreia could not? Why didn't Revan kill him? Why didn't Sion ever try?
If you can find a logical answer to all those questions I will give your theory a chance... But right now? I don't think its true.
OK nihilus is a strong force sucking thing and he sucked the force from a planet.But njo luke is the most powerful force user ever who are we to say that he isnt more powerful than all the force users on the planet put together. I reckon it would take a while for nihilus to eat his force power then njo could kill him.
alternitivly(sorry for spellin) luke may be able to use the instant kill thing but i do not no to what extent he can use it to.
Nihilus is powerful with is eating force powers but i think luke could maybe pull this off somehow, luke would struggle. Its like one of those moments in movies Nihilus says "I killed your family i hate them all, u have failed the jedi everything u have done you have failed! Now u ill die" Something like that.... Then Luke says "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" And luke might do something "magical" that would defeat him.
Dude, we live in a world where people can't agree on religion, sports scores, and dinner. What makes you think they will agree to NJO Luke, the proverbial horse that everyone's ego-based bet is riding on, is mortal and fallible? Half of these people probably play games with stratgey guides, cheat codes, and Game Genie, for crying out loud...