If God were to tell you to, would you fly an airplane into a building?

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Wouldn't be surprised if God did ask something like that, he has a questionable track record with destruction. And then there is Joan of Arc. And the Crusaders. But still, even if God decided to come and personally ask me I would say no. The I would give him a lecture on morals. Maybe quote the twelve commandments and send him to his room and make him think about what he was asking.

The 12 Commandments??? 😆 ....Is there something you're not telling us?....Did God give you 2 more.....

Odd, I always thought it was 13.

god gave rules also besides the commands and their were 600 of them to follow.

if a person could follow all of them they would be considered perfect in god's eyes.

Originally posted by JimMorrison227
Odd, I always thought it was 13.

I know of only one commandment, but it's so hard to do that God had to brake it down to at least 10.

The one commandment is: love your neighbor as you love yourself. If we loved each other, we wouldn't need the other 10.

Well, the other part of that is and "love God with all your heart" and "Love your neighbor as you love yourself."...Makes 2....And loving God would include loving your neighbor...cause we are all parts of God, and also loving the Earth and everything in it since god created that too with parts of It's self....But I agree with you Shaky.

and cking....if you kept all 600 of those commandments...you'd go crazy....You couldn't even mix different fabrics together linen/wool..have to keep the Sabbath....Gee I should post some of those....some where really quite strange.

NOT I, cause God would never ask that....Not the real God...maybe the false god behind door number 2....

isn't it a bit egotistical to think that you as nothing more than an average everyday human knows what a supreme being, a god would do or ask? Aren't we talking about the same sick god who lets hundreds of thousands of children die every year from aids and whatnot?

God: I'll start my day by killing 200 children. Around noon I'll have a few auto accidents cripple a few more children for life.........but have somebody fly a plane into a building? I could never do that.......

I think not. What makes you think a god would even care? If there was a god, we would be nothing more than play things.........toys to amuse it.........much like the human figures we create (dolls).

I never liked that movie Independence Day, but thats what they did If I remember right. They flew an airplane into their space crafts, and killed many ets, but it was needed to defend the planet.

I don't keep all those 600 rules, it would be impossible for anyone to actually follow every one of them. we know what sin is so we don't follow the commandments anymore.

the only reason God gave the Israelites the commandments because they didn't know what kind of sin they were committing so God couldn't judge them. people back then could have kept all of those commandments, but man was bent on doing sin itself and never cared about those commandments. the commandments don't have power over Christians, because Jesus died for us so we won't be judged under it. unbelievers will be Jesus won't be there to help that person out before god's throne. The only power that the commandments have is the power to convict sin. back then salvation never came through the commandments, but only through God alone, God used the commandments to help man come back to god and to test their faith. salvation only comes through Jesus as god back then. back then burnt offerings and other seed, grain, or sin offerings, never guaranteed a person would have their sins cleaned because many never had faith that it would be good enough and do god declared it unnecessary and came up with a much better covenant that is with Jesus. so the old covenant was put away and the new covenant with Jesus gives us the right to go before god without sin.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
isn't it a bit egotistical to think that you as nothing more than an average everyday human knows what a supreme being, a god would do or ask? Aren't we talking about the same sick god who lets hundreds of thousands of children die every year from aids and whatnot?

God: I'll start my day by killing 200 children. Around noon I'll have a few auto accidents cripple a few more children for life.........but have somebody fly a plane into a building? I could never do that.......

I think not. What makes you think a god would even care? If there was a god, we would be nothing more than play things.........toys to amuse it.........much like the human figures we create (dolls).

So if God does all the bad stuff, who does the good stuff?

I think God doesn't "do", we "do". If you cut yourself, you bleed, but it's really the wound that is bleeding.

Originally posted by cking
the only reason God gave the Israelites the commandments because they didn't know what kind of sin they were committing so God couldn't judge them.

So how was it that God could punish Adam and Eve? The were even more ignorant of sin, but punished they were, despite not knowing about anything like that.

And what about all the people who lived "before" this happened, what about them? Were they judged? And all those poor Egyptians killed. They had no commandments either... so they couldn't have known the sins they were committing...

i wouldn't, id tell god to go and do it himself.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So are you # 3?

In theory, I can say 'sure', but, in practice, I don't think I could even hurt my cat for God. I don't believe that God acts as He did in the OT--verbally communicating with people, giving others the gift of prophecy, etc.--and so would have myself tested for schizophrenia if I heard "God's" voice telling me to do something like that.

because Adam and eve committed the first sin. the people before Adam weren't judged based on the law. bu they did have a conscience of right and wrong. the Egyptians had their own religion, they believed in many gods. Egyptians of that time would never have any association with god anyway. they didn't know what they were doing, but they knew it was wrong to punish the Israelites for 430 years, that is worthy of any kind of punishment so god judged them based on that part. they abused the Israelites greatly, not poor Egyptians, poor Jews. the Egyptians had everything, while the Jews were living in filth.

not Adam moses sorry.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
So how was it that God could punish Adam and Eve? The were even more ignorant of sin, but punished they were, despite not knowing about anything like that.

And what about all the people who lived "before" this happened, what about them? Were they judged? And all those poor Egyptians killed. They had no commandments either... so they couldn't have known the sins they were committing...

As for the Egyptians--I don't know. I'm going to say that God wouldn't judge those who weren't devoted specifically to Him because they had not heard of Him...but I don't know God's mind and I can't say. How were people from the OT judged? It was before Jesus was sacrificed, so maybe...

Eh, no clue. I cannot provide a sufficient answer.

the Egyptians were judged that day based on what they did to the Jews. the people from the old testament were judged based on the law, while before wasn't because they didn't know what they were doing, but still they knew what was right and wrong.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Adam & Eve were not to do one thing; it was made abundantly clear to them. They did it anyway.

Adam and Eve also had no knowledge of good and evil and likewise, no knowledge of the difference between right and wrong. Adam and Eve may have disobeyed God, but they had no way of knowing that disobeying God was wrong.

Originally posted by FeceMan
As for the Egyptians--I don't know. I'm going to say that God wouldn't judge those who weren't devoted specifically to Him because they had not heard of Him...but I don't know God's mind and I can't say. How were people from the OT judged? It was before Jesus was sacrificed, so maybe...

Eh, no clue. I cannot provide a sufficient answer.

Then the Lord said:

I have seen the affliction of my people who are in Egypt, and have heard their cries because of their taskmasters. I know their suffering and have come down to deliver them out of the hands of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land to a good and broad land, a land flowing with milk and honey.

Yeah, God sent Moses to be the deliverer, then throws a curveball; God hardens Pharoah's heart, so Pharoah won't let the Israelites go.

"Moses, set my people free; Pharoah, keep 'em captive." Hey God, whose side are you on?

Then a plague; God plagued the mighty Pharoah for not letting the Israelites go. God smites Pharoah with the first of ten disasters. One morning, old-boy Pharoah strolls down to the beach for, you know, a swim, for a tan, something. He goes down, checks it . . . oh! All the water in the Nile has turned to blood.

"Why?" That's what Pharoah's asking himself, "Why is there blood in the Nile?"

He asks his priests and his soothsayers but before they can figure it out, swarms of frogs hop out of the water and into the Egyptians' homes; into their beds, and bathtubs, and mixing bowls.

Pharoah says, "Enough, the Israelites can get the **** out."

"Yippie!" says Moses.

And then, God hardens Pharoah's heart again; at the last minute Pharoah decides the Israelites can't leave. Suddenly, the dust of Egypt turns to gnats and flies. Imagine, your house, your office, your whole city filled with flies. Imagine the noise, all the buzzing in your head, and bug spray won't be invented for four thousand years yet.

Darkness; for three days straight, only darkness. Think of it, sitting in your house for three days, no lights, no TVs, not even a flashlight to keep the black out. Pharoah is sitting there on his throne, in the dark, wondering when it's all gonna end. All 'cause of God. Doesn't make sense, does it; Pharoah taking the blame for what God was gonna do anyway?

The last plague is the worst one. That's the one that messes up our ideas about God. All the firstborn in the land of Egypt killed on one night when everyone's asleep. You the oldest child in the family? Woulda been you, no questions asked. Pharoah's son dies too; his heir, his pride and joy, sweet, innocent little boy.

You reap what you sow, Pharoah got what he deserved. But what about Abdul the farmer who woke up with frogs on his face, his cattle dead from anthrax, his wife ****ed up with sores, his only child dead, all because of a leader he didn't even get to vote for? What about all the people who reap what they don't sow? What about you?

true, Adam Poe, they never knew what wrong was because they were sinless at the time. true, GOD did harden Pharaoh's heart so the Israelites would give more glory to him instead of bragging about themselves.