Originally posted by FeceMan
Thank you for referring me to the voice of God.
God listens to all...respects all....And does not coerce....Not no one, not no how, not no way. God listens and speaks......Who has ears let them hear.......Said by someone important, I think.. 🙄
God does not interfer with our process, but respects our decisions...It's called free will.
that is why humans were created in his image so they could make choices themselves without someone holding their hand for them. alot of people in some situations always depend on another to hold their hand in a situation, but they aren't there. So that why we have free choice. but in some situations we need god to help us in major decision making.
Originally posted by FeceMan
Thank you for referring me to the voice of God. AngelGirl's wisdom clearly transcends God's and she obviously has a better grasp of all things biblical.
Sorry FaceMan but I wasn't talking to you. I know you were being sarcastic, and I think you are older. AngelGirl is around 14 and she got the right answer. I was shocked to see people say "Yes they would", and they were young men, just like the ones on 9-11, except these were Christians. She restored my faith.
I interpret what you said above as "why didn't you notice me?". Am I wrong? FaceMan step out of yourself for a minuet; young people will soon be old people, and we will be dead.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Sorry FaceMan but I wasn't talking to you. I know you were being sarcastic, and I think you are older. AngelGirl is around 14 and she got the right answer. I was shocked to see people say "Yes they would", and they were young men, just like the ones on 9-11, except these were Christians. She restored my faith.I interpret what you said above as "why didn't you notice me?". Am I wrong? FaceMan step out of yourself for a minuet; young people will soon be old people, and we will be dead.
Shakya....there is no right answer....and if at all Angel is clearly wrong....
Look:
You said "If God were to tell you to, would you fly an airplane into a building?" ....she said "God would never do that" and in this context she is just wrong because we established that god would in this example.......
Sorry but that is just the easy way out, it is like someone asks you "If you have to children and you have to chose which of them must life who would you chose" and you say "Homocidial maniacs would never do that" .....that's just not the right answer to a hypothetical question....oh and eveyone knows its "The Ugly One"
Originally posted by Bardock42
Shakya....there is no right answer....and if at all Angel is clearly wrong....Look:
You said "If God were to tell you to, would you fly an airplane into a building?" ....she said "God would never do that" and in this context she is just wrong because we established that god would in this example.......Sorry but that is just the easy way out, it is like someone asks you "If you have to children and you have to chose which of them must life who would you chose" and you say "Homocidial maniacs would never do that" .....that's just not the right answer to a hypothetical question....oh and eveyone knows its "The Ugly One"
I disagree, she said no and she's young, she got the right answer for her age. I hold people who are older to a higher standard. You are also wrong about the answer, so, here is the correct answer. God is not our master!. God can not tell us what to do, he gave us free will!
I said I wouldn't cause I didn't feel like it
She said she wouldn't because God would never ask that (which is wrong since he asked it)
Ther is NO right answer......because to that question it is always what the person would do which is just a fact....no right no wrong.....
Plus your answer is not even an answer to the question because even if yolu think God is not our master this still doesn'T mean that you have to say no...becauwse as you said he can't tell us what to do but we can decide and if s0omeone sais yes this is just as right as someone saying no.
Oh by the way if a god like The Bible god exists he clearly is our master, sure he gave us free will...but he can take it as soon as he wants to.....he is almighty, and our free will would be a privilege not a right.....I am happy that there is no "god"
Originally posted by FeceMan
Thank you for referring me to the voice of God. AngelGirl's wisdom clearly transcends God's and she obviously has a better grasp of all things biblical.
Its not to difficult to transcend all things biblical. She probably did that.
But I don´t see a reason to why not kill people. There are worst things than death, and maybe it can have a greater purpose. And no I am not being fanatical, In fact I hate fanatism !
Originally posted by Bardock42
I said I wouldn't cause I didn't feel like it
She said she wouldn't because God would never ask that (which is wrong since he asked it)Ther is NO right answer......because to that question it is always what the person would do which is just a fact....no right no wrong.....
Plus your answer is not even an answer to the question because even if yolu think God is not our master this still doesn'T mean that you have to say no...becauwse as you said he can't tell us what to do but we can decide and if s0omeone sais yes this is just as right as someone saying no.
Oh by the way if a god like The Bible god exists he clearly is our master, sure he gave us free will...but he can take it as soon as he wants to.....he is almighty, and our free will would be a privilege not a right.....I am happy that there is no "god"
This is one of the problems with Christianity, the mythology sometimes make no since. The fact is we have free will because we have free will not because some childish God gave it to us. some people are slaves to a childish God! My relationship to God is quite different. Some people have been lie to all of their lives, the fairy tail God that they speak of is not real.
God does not "do", we do.
God does not "need", we need.
God does not "kill", we kill.
Also, I don't know why you seem so upset. I started this thread with the answer that I told you in mind, so for, this thread, what I told you was the correct answer. This is only a discussion forum, don't take it so personally.
Smile and be happy.
I wish you great happiness.
am I missing something?
a couple of people in this thread have stated, "god would not do that".......why wouldn't he? He's a bad motherfucker who does as he pleases. He's the one who reduces cities into salt..........kills millions of children............cripples innocent people........what's killing a few thousand people to him? He does it everyday..........that's how he gets his kicks.
It appears to me that many people in this thread are saying this because they would hope that god would not ask such a thing........in their mind, he wouldn't..........and are completely ignoring all the other more ruthless shit accredited to him..............
He wouldn't want you to fly a plane into a building..........but he would flood the entire planet, killing of 99.99% of life on it in one fell swoop.........human and non-human alike? What, does god just love buildings or something?........'cause based on all accounts......he/she/it doesn't regard human life in such a high manner.
(yes.......I'm taking this thread in the hypothetical situation that there really is a god, an intelligent being that created all matter when in fact I do not believe in a god of this sense of the word).
Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh by the way if a god like The Bible god exists he clearly is our master, sure he gave us free will...but he can take it as soon as he wants to.....he is almighty, and our free will would be a privilege not a right.....I am happy that there is no "god"
The Bible God as portrayed is not the True god at all...It's only one of many views of what god is through a religion.....The true God transcends religions....and wouldn't corherse anyone to do anything....
And yes cking....I know I quoted Jesus....
Of all the teachings of Jesus only a few made it into the Bible...There were hundreds of texts not included......Jesus was not god.....But I taught us what god is......
And BTW....throw everything out that Paul EVER SAID.....He strayed from the true teaching of Jesus....and Christianity was based on him/Paul.......
Oh boy why do people always think I take things personal.....its like they think its there chance to "win" a debate.
Ok i will tell you again....it doesn't matter if you think God exists, and it doesn't matter if you had an answer in mind because the topic of the thread was not "Guess Shakyas Answer" but "What would you do", which clearly is no right or wrong questions.
I agree there is no such God...but in your question you implied what we would do IF there was such a God (A God like the Christian faith preaches) ... therefore using "God would never do that" or "God doesn't exist" since in this hypothetical case you establishe both that God does exis and that he would ask us to do it....therefore the only two answers can be Yes I would or No I wouldn't which both are equally valid and can't just be said to be wrong.
I will smile and be happy as soon as I will have to stop telling people what they do wrong....ergo never 🙁
Oh and Christian Mythology doesn'T contradict itself....it said he gave us Free Will....that he is almighty and can take it from us is no contradiction to that......and refrain from talking like your belief is and must be truth:
"God does not "do", we do.
God does not "need", we need.
God does not "kill", we kill."
this
"The fact is we have free will because we have free will not because some childish God gave it to us."
and this....you don't really know if that's true so state that it is your opinion......
Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh boy why do people always think I take things personal.....its like they think its there chance to "win" a debate.
Yes, everyone else is wrong. You are right, oh mighty Bardock42.
Maybe it's the way you say things, or maybe it's because you take it personally. How old are you, anyway? I don't care about win.
I never said I was right aboot all I said...some of it is just my personal opinion...some is right though because of some basic logical rules....and not everyone else is wron just some things you said in this context are wrong. Oh by the way...do you take it personal? I mean because you didn't answer to what I said but just to the personal thing (which I just said because people on other Message boards just recently accused me of that)
Maybe its the way I say things...possible....well I do not....just believe me and take what I said not how I said it...so could I ask you to answer to my post now?
Oh yes I am 19 by the way...not that it matters but anyways.
And there is no win in a Debate that'S why I used " I was just reffering to the behaviour of some posters that seem to think they have to win and use all cheap tricks but no real arguements.
Again, I stated some facts, why don't you answer to them now instead of to that post, because this post is not necessary to the arguement but only to clarify things.
Originally posted by Evil Dead
am I missing something?a couple of people in this thread have stated, "god would not do that".......why wouldn't he? He's a bad motherfu[b]
cker who does as he pleases. He's the one who reduces cities into salt..........kills millions of children............cripples innocent people........what's killing a few thousand people to him? He does it everyday..........that's how he gets his kicks.It appears to me that many people in this thread are saying this because they would hope that god would not ask such a thing........in their mind, he wouldn't..........and are completely ignoring all the other more ruthless shit accredited to him..............
He wouldn't want you to fly a plane into a building..........but he would flood the entire planet, killing of 99.99% of life on it in one fell swoop.........human and non-human alike? What, does god just love buildings or something?........'cause based on all accounts......he/she/it doesn't regard human life in such a high manner.
(yes.......I'm taking this thread in the hypothetical situation that there really is a god, an intelligent being that created all matter when in fact I do not believe in a god of this sense of the word). [/B]
Hi Evil Dead
You make me 😆
This God thing in Christianity is such a big contradiction. I am so glad that I am a Buddhist.
Originally posted by debbiejo
The Bible God as portrayed is not the True god at all...It's only one of many views of what god is through a religion.....The true God transcends religions....and wouldn't corherse anyone to do anything....And yes cking....I know I quoted Jesus....
Of all the teachings of Jesus only a few made it into the Bible...There were hundreds of texts not included......Jesus was not god.....But I taught us what god is......
And BTW....throw everything out that Paul EVER SAID.....He strayed from the true teaching of Jesus....and Christianity was based on him/Paul.......
Doesn't matter in this Hypothetical Situation were "god" asked us to do it....
Originally posted by Bardock42
I never said I was right aboot all I said...some of it is just my personal opinion...some is right though because of some basic logical rules....and not everyone else is wron just some things you said in this context are wrong. Oh by the way...do you take it personal? I mean because you didn't answer to what I said but just to the personal thing (which I just said because people on other Message boards just recently accused me of that)Maybe its the way I say things...possible....well I do not....just believe me and take what I said not how I said it...so could I ask you to answer to my post now?
Oh yes I am 19 by the way...not that it matters but anyways.
And there is no win in a Debate that'S why I used " I was just reffering to the behaviour of some posters that seem to think they have to win and use all cheap tricks but no real arguements.Again, I stated some facts, why don't you answer to them now instead of to that post, because this post is not necessary to the arguement but only to clarify things.
😆
I don't know what you are talking about.
I might have missed what you are talking about. I'm only human, ans I miss things from time to time.
So, take a deep breath, and ask again.
I will look at it later, I now have to go. BTW I still like you Bardock42.
I am talking aboot that:
Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh boy why do people always think I take things personal.....its like they think its there chance to "win" a debate.Ok i will tell you again....it doesn't matter if you think God exists, and it doesn't matter if you had an answer in mind because the topic of the thread was not "Guess Shakyas Answer" but "What would you do", which clearly is no right or wrong questions.
I agree there is no such God...but in your question you implied what we would do IF there was such a God (A God like the Christian faith preaches) ... therefore using "God would never do that" or "God doesn't exist" since in this hypothetical case you establishe both that God does exis and that he would ask us to do it....therefore the only two answers can be Yes I would or No I wouldn't which both are equally valid and can't just be said to be wrong.
I will smile and be happy as soon as I will have to stop telling people what they do wrong....ergo never 🙁
Oh and Christian Mythology doesn'T contradict itself....it said he gave us Free Will....that he is almighty and can take it from us is no contradiction to that......and refrain from talking like your belief is and must be truth:
"God does not "do", we do.
God does not "need", we need.
God does not "kill", we kill."this
"The fact is we have free will because we have free will not because some childish God gave it to us."
and this....you don't really know if that's true so state that it is your opinion......
Well You quoted the beginning but didn't go into the other part, which made me believ you saw the post.....
I did...did I not?
Ok....well I am rather indifferent to you but I could say that I like talking to you or reading youtr posts more than others........