Hercules vs. Classic Juggernaut

ok.... Wasp said ... that Hercules is the strongest Avenger (which i doubt.... because i still believe that this title belongs to the Hulk..)

now..... Thor has beaten the Juggernaut.....

but in threads before, i believe, people gave Herc NO chance against Juggernaut

who will win a one on one encounter.... i believe.... Juggernaut has respect of Hercules..... .and Herc... has NO fear of anybody.....

it is said that Juggernaut only has respect from Hulk and Thor..... but i think.... after the match (which eventually will won by Juggy...) he will have respect of the Prince of Power....

Hercules is perhaps in the same class than Hulk..... Juggernaut too...

wow... what a clash... i would love to see this...

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Betageuze, when did Thor beat Classic Jugs ??

He won by battlefild removal once.

Thor wins due to his hammer, strenghtwise they wer always go back and forth.

Its a virtual stalemate, Jugs cant kill Herc and Herc cant kill Jugs. Both have high durability with the nod going for Jugs. And the skills as well as immortality going for Herc.

herc wont die, but would be soundly kod by juggie easy peasy, thor would beat herc , juggie beats thor, oh all lose to hulk

"herc wont die, but would be soundly kod by juggie easy peasy, thor would beat herc , juggie beats thor, oh all lose to hulk"

In case you havent notice since you dont read comics....

Spoilers

None of those four have a clear win against the other.

Oh except Herc against Macsterson Thor.

Classic Juggernaut VS. Thor Battle 1: Juggs is teleported away by Thor. Let's not also forget he battled the New Warriors as well as Thor. Cheap victory for Thor and The New Warriors.

Classic Juggernaut VS. Thor Battle 2: Thor does a little better negating Juggs field for a SHORTWHILE, then realizing it's actually impossible to stop him, he the Mjolnir around Juggs wrist or hand, then threw him into space. Another cheap victory for Thor.

Classic Juggernaut VS. Thor Battle 3: Juggernaut easily trounced Thor this time. Decisive win for Juggernaut.

Herc will battle, and the longer it goes on, the more hatred and determination will grow, and Juggs will eventually Knock Herc out.

Its possible.

Altho i see it as stalemate. Juggs and Herc are at the same level of strengh. Like Hulk and Thor.

right once again olympian my dim witted kevin sorbo want to be. herc would not die but get knocked out. thor would also knock out herc as would hulk. hulk has ( for your information) overpowered thor nigh on every battle.

"thor would also knock out herc as would hulk. hulk has ( for your information) overpowered thor nigh on every battle."

Except Thor never knocked Hercules out. They had something like 5/6 fights and it never happened. Show me where that happened.

Show me when Hulk as ever knocked Hercules out. They had 6 fights and not even when he fought Mortal Hercules that happened.

Good luck, youll need it.

I believe that Juggernaut would definitely win. Hercs immortality doesnt come into it. He doesnt have unlimited endurance, his durability is nowhere near Juggs and Jugg is stronger as well. Therefore Herc would get knocked out in the end.

"I believe that Juggernaut would definitely win"

Jugs - can - win due to higer durability. That means Herc will have a difficult time to hurt him. And yes he can be ko even with immortality.

"He doesnt have unlimited endurance,"

No, but hes invulnerable a good deal ( less than jugs ) and doesnt tire at all as immortal.

"Jugg is stronger as well"

On this i dont agree. Without the forcefield on, Thor has put the hurt on jugs with a couple of shots. Jugs is no more stronger in relation to an angry Hulk than Thor or Herc are. Theyr rougly the same.

What gives Jugs the nod here its the Durability. Let it be against a Thor with no hammer or a Hulk.

Originally posted by olympian
On this i dont agree. Without the forcefield on, Thor has put the hurt on jugs with a couple of shots. Jugs is no more stronger in relation to an angry Hulk than Thor or Herc are. Theyr rougly the same.

What gives Jugs the nod here its the Durability. Let it be against a Thor with no hammer or a Hulk.

the only thing i wanted to comment on... common mistake is that juggernaut is only invulnerable with his force field up which is false... thor negated the magic which made juggernaut... juggernaut. thor negated his invulnerability, and his force field. a trick that wouldnt happen a second time, as juggernaut knows that one now.

the next issue where thor and juggernaut fight, thor landed blows directly on juggernauts body, and it had no (yes none) effect on juggernaut.

Thing is in one of those fights where Jugs field was off ( at least i recall it was off..), he took shots from Thor and even the helmet got out.

In no means im saying without the force field hes easy. Without it and pound for pound its like High class of strengh guys figthing. And Jugs one of them.

But what makes Jugs overkill to put down its exacty his mistical field.

Juggernaut doesnt use his "field" all that often... can you even name a handful of times where he uses it??? if he used it all the time, the helmet would never be removed, and juggernaut would be pretty much incapable of losing by a physical match up. or any match up really. the only way would be to attack the enchantments that make him juggernaut (some kind of mage) or by ring outs/teleporting.

this is a physical match up, and the only reason the hulk/juggernaut debate has been going on so long, is the hulk supporters say hulk -can- win because of his potential to be stronger. a potential hercules doesnt have... juggernaut doesnt need to erect the force field for hercules, hercules has no way of countering the enchantments that make juggernaut invulnerable, or unstoppable. he could match him blow for blow... until juggernauts start to a take a toll on old herc... then he falls, juggernaut still unfazed 😄

didnt mean to double post...

Thats what im saying. Hes not always portrated that way.

About the tool, no 😄 Herc while not having the advantage of empowering his strengh over he does have some that will help him in the stalemate.

Immortality. Hercules can fight as long as he wants.

Static strengh. It matchs those of Thor and angry Hulk and unlike the Hulk that -can- fluctuate, Hercs doesnt. He never lose any of his power in the middle of the fight.

Endless Stamina. He doesnt tire.

Durability. Less than Jugs but high as well. And higher than Thor. Herc never got hurt against Thor or Hulk. The only time i recall he got hurt was against the sneak attack of Goliath and the further dogpile of all the Masters of Evil on him, and even that didnt killed him.

They will match blow for blow. Jugs however isent stronger. What he is its more difficult to put down. Jugs punches wont make Herc bleed the slighest. And the other way as well.

Thats why i see it as a stalemate.

"didnt mean to double post..."

You didnt double post.

I've argued that fact, if he never took his shield down, he'd never lose to anyone.
That's pretty much the only excuse for him not using it, no one is that dumb.