Originally posted by olympian
Immortality. Hercules can fight as long as he wants.
immortality, means he cannot die 😉 you must be talking about stamina?? as in he doesnt tire??? cause juggernaut is immortal also... either way, juggernaut as both these abilities so this point is moot.
Originally posted by olympian
Static strengh. It matchs those of Thor and angry Hulk and unlike the Hulk that -can- fluctuate, Hercs doesnt. He never lose any of his power in the middle of the fight.
and juggernaut does??? no...
Originally posted by olympian
Endless Stamina. He doesnt tire.
and juggernaut does??? no...
Originally posted by olympian
Durability. Less than Jugs but high as well. And higher than Thor. Herc never got hurt against Thor or Hulk. The only time i recall he got hurt was against the sneak attack of Goliath and the further dogpile of all the Masters of Evil on him, and even that didnt killed him.
no matter how you look at it, juggernaut is leaps and bounds more durable than herc in any form...
Originally posted by olympian
They will match blow for blow. Jugs however isent stronger. What he is its more difficult to put down. Jugs punches wont make Herc bleed the slighest. And the other way as well.
who said anything about bleeding??? a k.o. is innevitable. the longer the fight drags out, the more it favors juggernaut... its that simple... you know it, and so do i 😄, that and herc is more liable to break his hand than to hurt juggernaut.
Originally posted by olympian
Thats why i see it as a stalemate.
its not a stalemate... juggernaut -will- win in the end. the only thing that herc has on juggernaut, is fighting skills.
"immortality, means he cannot die you must be talking about stamina?? as in he doesnt tire??? cause juggernaut is immortal also... either way, juggernaut as both these abilities so this point is moot."
Both. Its not a major point being immortal if you cant last as long as you live. Theyr both tireless.
"no matter how you look at it, juggernaut is leaps and bounds more durable than herc in any form..."
And where did i said he wasent? He gets the nod just because of that.
"who said anything about bleeding??? a k.o. is innevitable. the longer the fight drags out, the more it favors juggernaut... its that simple... you know it, and so do i , that and herc is more liable to break his hand than to hurt juggernaut. "
No. What is more possible is Herc being ko than Jugs. Is it going to happen? I dont recall him Knocking out Hulk in every fight.
And breaking the hand? A guy who punked and ripped Terminus armour apart like it was nothing? If Thor and Hulk dont, Herc wont either. Your exageratting here already.
"the longer the fight drags out, the more it favors juggernaut... its that simple"
That would be if he got stronger..wich he doesnt. Or that herc would tire. Wich he also doesnt. " what longer the fight drags " thing is that? It doesnt matter how much they fight, they wont tire or lose anything in theyr fight at all. Both have advantages over each other.
"its not a stalemate... juggernaut -will- win in the end. the only thing that herc has on juggernaut, is fighting skills"
The only thing Jugs has on Herc its durability. Strengtwise theyr even. Figthing skills Herc has it all over Jugs to put him down and outsmart him. The rest theyr physically even.
" only thing " ha
Are you positive Hercules -never- tires? I know his stamina is godly, but never tiring is something new.
Jug can wear him down, I consider Hercules Thor's physical superior, but he would still be wore down after fighting for a few days.
Every punch Jug's lands will hurt, Hercules won't ever hurt jugs.
It's just a matter of time and lucky punches.
"Are you positive Hercules -never- tires? I know his stamina is godly, but never tiring is something new"
Thats why im standing with the point. If he didnt he would eventually lose.
Immortal hercules never got tired in a fight as far as i know. Certainly never against Thor, Thing, Savage Hulk, Terminus, an army of Hulks or against hundred of Dire Whraits, Growing man etc. Even in later years during infinity crusade he never did. And he went against Thanos twice with others heroes help.
"Every punch Jug's lands will hurt"
Hurt more than the other way yes. But lets not make it like Herc has no durability. His durability is higher than Thors. He can take punishment, and Jugs is not stronger to overcome that difference. Hurt more hell yeah, the enough to ko him? No.
About the punching i agree, his figthing skills will be of more use.
Where?
What i did said was Jugs has one chance in many to ko him out while Herc wont if Jugs keeps his force field up.
Jugs isent that strong that hes going to Ko Herc while he never did against Thor with strenght. Herc is more durable. Tireless, never loses strengh like the other guy.
Its likely a stalemate.
Originally posted by KillAll
immortality, means he cannot die 😉 you must be talking about stamina?? as in he doesnt tire??? cause juggernaut is immortal also... either way, juggernaut as both these abilities so this point is moot.and juggernaut does??? no...
and juggernaut does??? no...
no matter how you look at it, juggernaut is leaps and bounds more durable than herc in any form...
who said anything about bleeding??? a k.o. is innevitable. the longer the fight drags out, the more it favors juggernaut... its that simple... you know it, and so do i 😄, that and herc is more liable to break his hand than to hurt juggernaut.
its not a stalemate... juggernaut -will- win in the end. the only thing that herc has on juggernaut, is fighting skills.
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Yea i have that issue. And in the marvel directory years ago it described how durable Terminus' armor was too, which was pretty freaking strong. So i say Herc's not going to be breaking anything against Jug's body. I dont think Jugs is going to shrug Herc off very easily either, he has been put on his butt by Colossus who isnt nearly as impressive as Herc.