Originally posted by Wynndar
Herc breaking his hand on Jug? HAHAHA wow way to underestimate Herc.
i didnt say he WOULD break his hand definately... i said his hand would break long before juggernaut was HURT... way to try to put words into my mouth...
Originally posted by olympian
And breaking the hand? A guy who punked and ripped Terminus armour apart like it was nothing? If Thor and Hulk dont, Herc wont either. Your exageratting here already.
read above about the hand... you 2 are doing what he is. i'm exagerating nothing... juggernaut has knocked thor out within the confines of a single comic. juggernaut has knocked hulk out within the confines of a single comic. juggernaut has made thor question his own life. thor has called juggernaut "unbeatable"... has thor ever said anything like that about hercules??
Originally posted by olympian
That would be if he got stronger..wich he doesnt. Or that herc would tire. Wich he also doesnt. " what longer the fight drags " thing is that? It doesnt matter how much they fight, they wont tire or lose anything in theyr fight at all. Both have advantages over each other.
hercules has one advantage... thats fighting skill. what i'm saying about the fight lasting longer ='s favoring juggernaut, is that eventually (no set time limit) it will take a toll on hercules' body, but not on juggernauts. eventually herc will fall. herc could win the fights, if they are short, or interrupted, but the longer it drags out, it favors juggernaut more and more...
"i didnt say he WOULD break his hand definately... i said his hand would break long before juggernaut was HURT... way to try to put words into my mouth..."
I aware its a playing wth words but force field or not that would never happen.
"juggernaut has knocked thor out within the confines of a single comic. juggernaut has knocked hulk out within the confines of a single comic."
Knocked Thor out for good? Your not thinking 8th day Jugs are you. Hercules has overpowered Thor before as well.
"thor has called juggernaut "unbeatable"... has thor ever said anything like that about hercules??"
Thats his gig, of course while he has called him that Jugs isent actually unbeatable. And nah he never said Herc was so, just that he had never faced anyone like him before.
"hercules has one advantage... thats fighting skill. what i'm saying about the fight lasting longer ='s favoring juggernaut, is that eventually (no set time limit) it will take a toll on hercules' body"
What i ask is how will time favor Jugs if Herc as immortal never got tired before. Ever wonder why Hulk never won a fight against him? He always gets back and doesnt tire at all. Otherwise if he didnt had that kind of stamina Hulk would eventually overpower him thanks to a higher rage increase. Wich never happened.
"herc will fall. herc could win the fights, if they are short, or interrupted, but the longer it drags out, it favors juggernaut more and more..."
How will he fall if he doesnt tire or age like jugs. Juggernaut isent stronger than he is wich means he wont Ko him out after a short or long fight. Herc durability like strengh its always up. And Jugs power is static also.
He has better defense but lower offensive ways. Both are physically matched in a way the fight will finish without a winner.
Long. Herc as immortal didnt felt much pain before. Except some cases when he was ko. One was Iron man but it was a long range attack using the whole energy of the mansion. Another was during the mansions siege where he was drunk, drugged, dogpiled, sneaked and dogpiled again. He is able to feel more than Jugs but it doesnt tire him out unless its something along these conditions.
"and pain causes fatigue which causes sloppyness which leads to being K.O'd by Jugs"
He never felt fatigue before. When he first became Mortal he said he didnt felt fatigue in centuries.
Its a tie with a sligh edge to Jugs.
Considering Jugs doesnt carry long range attacks in high measure. ( The iron man trick was kinda the same the he used to Ko Hulk too, once ). Or doesnt have other guys with him to help, i fail to see how is he going to take someone whos thougher than Thor in durability, same raw strengh and more skilled.
And im not saying by any means that Herc has a chance to Ko or win here.
juggie would need a physcal opponent of hulks stature to lose. herc i think is just on the level strong , ie doesnt increase and isnt powerful enough to be up thir with hulks outputs. also olympian stop going on as though huk has met herc more than he has to put your point accross. the two have had less conclusive fights than hulk juggie, that themselves were quit inconclusive. and get a microscope for your weener
"juggie would need a physcal opponent of hulks stature to lose"
😗 He never lost against the hulk mano a mano.
"the two have had less conclusive fights than hulk juggie, that themselves were quit inconclusive."
All fights between Hulk/herc and Hulk/Jugs never had a clear winner. Wich means = stalemates.
i'm not saying the longer the fight drags out, it favors juggernaut because herc will get tired or fatigue, i am saying:
the longer the fight drags out, it favors juggernaut because eventually, juggernaut will start to hurt herc. eventually his body will get battered. juggernaut has the strength, stamina, and durabilty to do such a thing.
I already said thats a possibility. Thing is without being 8th day Juggernaut when has he in regular levels knocked Thor out ? Hurting only takes you so far.
Possibility its a Juggernaut win, but more likely its a tie considering how Marvel fights go and considering how these two are evenly matched at each other and both having theyr own advantages.
Id like to see this one made actually.
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Yeah hes not on Hulks level alright. Or Thor.
er yes he isnt. hulk has had many fights that are the same. stopped before a definitive conclusion. its what writers do to continue the mystique of the duel. hence these boards . at no point was the hulk shown reaching the levels of strength he has in the past and he wont cos it would be boring seeing him punch the lights out of everybody. juggie and herc are probably similar in strength, i just dont think herc would be able to ( unlike hulk) amp his strength anywhere near the level required to do any dammage
"er yes he isnt. hulk has had many fights that are the same. stopped before a definitive conclusion"
Works both ways. Aside from his low showing against lameass mortal Herc, what damage did the Hulk ever do to him? They both get hurt by each other and nothing more.
This concept you have that others arent in Hulk class its a joke. Marvel since forever wrote and showed that against these guys his strenght doesnt go up that way. Lifting something its not the same as fighting. Theyr rougly the same with each having its own advantages.
"i just dont think herc would be able to ( unlike hulk) amp his strength anywhere near the level required to do any dammage"
His normal strengh hurts the Hulk already. Now if you mean able to Ko the Hull? Unless Hulk its weak then no. Thing is Hulk never did it either.
The last point your correct. Hulk strenght increase is more than Herc.
