((The_Anomaly))
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Originally posted by Nai Fohl
[B]Uuuuuuuuuuhhhhaaaa....
Socrates had other students. Not only Plato. Still...what Plato is using as a philosophic method is still different from the one that Socrates used. Read through Platos work and then you can come here again to tell me that Plato is using a "socratic method in writing".
ummm, Plato's dialogues entitled "the death of Socrates" (usually) are the most perfect and by far the best examples of the socratic method we have. (discluding the apology, since its a speech) which, are....written....by...Plato seeing as they are his dialogues..lol
read these: (although id be extremly suprised if you have not read and re-read these, seeing as you have a B.A in Philosophy)
Euthyphro, Crito, Phaedo
these are the best examples of the socratic method on paper, and, i might add, the first examples of the socratic method on paper.
"what Plato is using as a philosophic method is still different from the one that Socrates used."
you are W-R-O-N-G..... we DO NOT HAVE any examples of socrates using his method, the only examples of socrates using it were written by plato. and, are for the most part considered to be mostly tall tales madeup by Plato as a kind of tribute to his teacher. (the events in the dialogues are semi-make belief, it is probable that socrates never actually spoke to Euthyphro before his trial etc. )
I will say it again so you understand, Socrates never wrote anything he did down, none of his thoughts, none of his methods. NOTHING...EVER.
in actuality, Plato was the creator of the Socratic method, if Plato had not said in his writings that socrates had created these ideas, we would never know anything about them. other then maybe small ramblings from historians of the time etc.
it has been said that aristotle was actually the true master of the socratic dialogue, unfortunatly all of his dialogues (and a great deal of his writing) were destroyed by the christians several hundred years later, now we have no examples of them specifically.