EU Continuity problem in KOTOR?

Started by ((The_Anomaly))10 pages
Oh...great...I didn't know that Plato is Socrates. Plato is just inspired by Socrates but isn't actualy using the same method. You should know that being a major in philosophy.

please check your sources, if you knew anything you would know that Socrates never wrote anything down, so everything we "know" about socrates is through plato. all the examples of socratic method, although plato says was invented by socrates, it was plato who was the first to use them in writing. all examples of socrates in everything, all of his work and thought we know only through plato.

everything we know about socrates, including his death (the apology) was written by plato. Socrates NEVER wrote ANYTHING down ever.

B.A in philosophy eh?

oh and i wont explain what i said before with canon and script. since ive done it what? 3 times or something, you obviously do not understand what im talking about.

which is odd since this form of taking apart words and what people say is a standard subject in philosphy. (i.e. logic)

*Grabs face and moans* No, not you again. Come on guys were arguing about KotOR and EU, not whos sources we need to check.

Yes and what you said was shown to be bs go back and take a look at what I said about absolute truth. Just because what someone says is in the script doesn't make it so, charachters are more then capable of ignorance in the SW universe as shown numerous times, windu said the sith were extinct for 1000 years but we all know thats not true because darth bane was alive, is it a contradiction to the movies? No windu merely was ignorant of bane's existence.

Again, Anomoly... PWN3D.

The picture says it all.

lmfao...

Originally posted by Tulak Hord
She was in the Young Jedi Knight series of books. Supposedly, she has a rainbow lightsaber with a rancor-tooth hilt. I don't know of any rainbow crystals, tho it may be possible to modify a certain crystal or gem to work with a saber.

This was said a while back and is the only thing I feel I need to replie to.

No, it's not rainbow, lmao. Tenel Ka's first lightsaber was actually silver while the hilt was a racor tooth. But that one blew up, taking her left arm with it. Then the rest of that book happend and there was adventures in the Hapes Cluster....yadayada... After she decided that she was the product of two worlds, her father's (Royal House of the Hapes Cluster), and her mother's (Clan on the Planet of Dathomir), she constructed her new lightsaber out of both Hapan crystals (she smashed her royal tiara to get them) and an other rancor tooth.

The confusion that it was rainbow was probably because you/they got the colour of the blade itself confused with the colour of the Hapan gems which are muti-coloured.

Yeah, that could be it. I confuse a lot of things.

Originally posted by Zachara
This was said a while back and is the only thing I feel I need to replie to.

No, it's not rainbow, lmao. Tenel Ka's first lightsaber was actually silver while the hilt was a racor tooth. But that one blew up, taking her left arm with it. Then the rest of that book happend and there was adventures in the Hapes Cluster....yadayada... After she decided that she was the product of two worlds, her father's (Royal House of the Hapes Cluster), and her mother's (Clan on the Planet of Dathomir), she constructed her new lightsaber out of both Hapan crystals (she smashed her royal tiara to get them) and an other rancor tooth.

The confusion that it was rainbow was probably because you/they got the colour of the blade itself confused with the colour of the Hapan gems which are muti-coloured.

So what color is it now?

There is NO Continuity problems in Kotor. It flows Perfectally with the STAR WARS story.

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
please check your sources, if you knew anything you would know that Socrates never wrote anything down, so everything we "know" about socrates is through plato. all the examples of socratic method, although plato says was invented by socrates, it was plato who was the first to use them in writing. all examples of socrates in everything, all of his work and thought we know only through plato.

everything we know about socrates, including his death (the apology) was written by plato. Socrates NEVER wrote ANYTHING down ever.

B.A in philosophy eh?

Uuuuuuuuuuhhhhaaaa....
Socrates had other students. Not only Plato. Still...what Plato is using as a philosophic method is still different from the one that Socrates used. Read through Platos work and then you can come here again to tell me that Plato is using a "socratic method in writing".


oh and i wont explain what i said before with canon and script. since ive done it what? 3 times or something, you obviously do not understand what im talking about.

You obviously do not understand that you are wrong. W-R-O-N-G. Got it now ? Do you ? If not...your posts are as senseless as the following picture:

Originally posted by Nai Fohl
[B]Uuuuuuuuuuhhhhaaaa....
Socrates had other students. Not only Plato. Still...what Plato is using as a philosophic method is still different from the one that Socrates used. Read through Platos work and then you can come here again to tell me that Plato is using a "socratic method in writing".

ummm, Plato's dialogues entitled "the death of Socrates" (usually) are the most perfect and by far the best examples of the socratic method we have. (discluding the apology, since its a speech) which, are....written....by...Plato seeing as they are his dialogues..lol

read these: (although id be extremly suprised if you have not read and re-read these, seeing as you have a B.A in Philosophy)

Euthyphro, Crito, Phaedo

these are the best examples of the socratic method on paper, and, i might add, the first examples of the socratic method on paper.

"what Plato is using as a philosophic method is still different from the one that Socrates used."

you are W-R-O-N-G..... we DO NOT HAVE any examples of socrates using his method, the only examples of socrates using it were written by plato. and, are for the most part considered to be mostly tall tales madeup by Plato as a kind of tribute to his teacher. (the events in the dialogues are semi-make belief, it is probable that socrates never actually spoke to Euthyphro before his trial etc. )

I will say it again so you understand, Socrates never wrote anything he did down, none of his thoughts, none of his methods. NOTHING...EVER.

in actuality, Plato was the creator of the Socratic method, if Plato had not said in his writings that socrates had created these ideas, we would never know anything about them. other then maybe small ramblings from historians of the time etc.

it has been said that aristotle was actually the true master of the socratic dialogue, unfortunatly all of his dialogues (and a great deal of his writing) were destroyed by the christians several hundred years later, now we have no examples of them specifically.

Umm...in accordance with the primary topic of this thread, and since I have skipped over 6 pages, correct me if I'm wrong in saying that: Has noone ever speculated the possibility that the makers of KOTOR were more concerned with the initial storyline and finishing the games, and didn't give a hoot about the continuity problem that appears as a minor blemish in the whole SW saga, and just shrugged it off, leaving it to people like ourselves to debate over?

Originally posted by Tangible God
Umm...in accordance with the primary topic of this thread, and since I have skipped over 6 pages, correct me if I'm wrong in saying that: Has noone ever speculated the possibility that the makers of KOTOR were more concerned with the initial storyline and finishing the games, and didn't give a hoot about the continuity problem that appears as a minor blemish in the whole SW saga, and just shrugged it off, leaving it to people like ourselves to debate over?

I take it that you really dislike KOTOR...

Originally posted by darthrevan89
I take it that you really dislike KOTOR...
No, I just like people to realize that this IS all science-fictional, so mistakes are allowed in the editing process.

Originally posted by Tangible God
No, I just like people to realize that this IS all science-fictional, so mistakes are allowed in the editing process.

Ok...and hey sorry about the Avatar thing I just have this deep hatred of rasicm.

Originally posted by darthrevan89
Ok...and hey sorry about the Avatar thing I just have this deep hatred of rasicm.
It's cool. And I'm sorry for calling you a placebo.(which I did)

I still don't see ANY problems with Kotor Continuity...

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Originally posted by Nactous
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What's with the single question mark?