Nai Fohl proudly presents...

So...after reading through the "Sith War (improved)" topic again I mentioned that a team with Marka Ragnos, Exar Kun, Naga Sadow and Darth Revan can't be killed by a team of canon characters. Now...I just decided to try it with non canon characters and hope you people are able to use your imagination.

Team 1: Ancient Sith Lords
Marka Ragnos
Exar Kun
Darth Revan
Naga Sadow

VS

Team 2: Nai Fohls "New Sith Order" (NSO that is) including:

Darth Vader (Anakin Skywalker at full potential)
Darth Vireous (Lord of the green) = Yoda (Dark Side)
Darth Gladius (Lord of the sword) = Mace Windu (Dark Side)
Darth Fortunous (Lord of the luck) = Obi-Wan Kenobi (Dark Side)

Imagine the three Jedi had studied the teachings of the Sith instead of becoming Jedi. Their skills in lightsaber combat remain the same as in ROTS. Who will win that fight ? Just throw anything you like in here.

Ancient sith wins.

Ragnos Kills vader
Sadow kills Gladius
Exar kills Fortunous
Revan kills Vireous

SITH ARE OVERRATED PUNKS WHO LIKE CHEAP POWER

Originally posted by MAKASHIMAN
SITH ARE OVERRATED PUNKS WHO LIKE CHEAP POWER

Like, you're not in the kindergarden ofending your baby companions so, that kind of crap doesn't work very much around, at least with me.

I JUST DON'T LIKE THE SITH

Originally posted by Darth_Rankkor
Ancient sith wins.

Ragnos Kills vader
Sadow kills Gladius
Exar kills Fortunous
Revan kills Vireous

Any reasons for that ?

Originally posted by Nai Fohl
Any reasons for that ?

imo:
a) ragnos is (was) more powerful than vader.
b) Sadow is not (to my knowledge) a good duelist but by knowledge of the force and sith magic he would own mace, though mace has a profound knowledge/mastery of the force.
c) Well, even that ben sucumbe to the darkside, his skills would be the almost the same so, if he didn't beat Dooku, he sure won't beat exar kun for he's better duelist that ben.
d) Revan would certainly won yoda. I see revan more powerful than sidious and with sidious he had an hard time, even assuming that he might win against sidious (which I maintain my opinion that sidious would have win)

Is this alright? This is why imo

New sith order will win.
Darth Vader kills Ragnos because of his full potental, then hes more powerful than anyone except mabey Luke.
Darth Vireous kills Exar. I belive dark Yoda would be more than a match for him, he wouldent be able to hit him and think about it, Yoda+Lightning.
Darth Gladius vs Revan. Evil Mace barley. I think he could pull this off. His Vappad is great and hes a great jedi so I belive he would barley handel him but wouldent be able to put up much of a fight cause he would probably be legg less.
Darth fourtunus vs Naga. I don't know a shit about Naga and I really like Obi but I don't know here, anyway Naga can't win even if he beats Obi.

ragnos wouldn't take full potential anakin, he'd rape anyone no doubt |!

Welll made up characters always have a nice chance but still Sith win.

Why?

Darth Vader (Anakin Skywalker at full potential)
Darth Vireous (Lord of the green) = Yoda (Dark Side)
Darth Gladius (Lord of the sword) = Mace Windu (Dark Side)
Darth Fortunous (Lord of the luck) = Obi-Wan Kenobi (Dark Side)

Anakin at his full potential would not necessarily have a great control, and seeing as you said Anakin Skywalker i'm going to assume you mean pre suit, with his full power he would still lose from Ragnos, Revan Sadow or Kun

Yoda is great now, but the only thing I know about him is that Dooku thought he would be unstopable on the Dark Side, could very well but I doubt it. And if he would have just gone dark his techniques would not be advanced enough yet. Of course that is if he just became Dark. Still I give this to Sadow

Darth Windu, Revan will still easily take him. Windu stands no real chance against somebody like Revan.

Darth Obi against Exar Kun? Let him try what he wants he loses.

This team is a lot better, but Windu and Obi are just to weak and could be killed to easily even as Dark and that would mean the others would have help pretty fast.

Oh...before people just missunderstand what I thought that characters would be like

Originally posted by Fishy
Anakin at his full potential would not necessarily have a great control, and seeing as you said Anakin Skywalker i'm going to assume you mean pre suit, with his full power he would still lose from Ragnos, Revan Sadow or Kun

I actualy meant "full developed" Anakin Skywalker. My mistake. Talking about a Darth Vader that never lost to Obi-Wan on Mustafar.

For the rest of the characters: I don't had in mind they would just "turn dark". I thought about all of them (including Anakin) never becoming Jedi but just been trained in the ways of the Sith from infancy on (so other force powers) but still with their ROTS lightsaber skills. Just to point that out.

In that case, well Obi and Mace are still weak links..

It depends on how powerful Anakin would really be compared to the rest. I know for sure that Revan would take Obi in less then a minute and that with Exar he would take Mace fast too.

But would Anakin be so powerful he could defeat them all? I very much doubt it, so I still give it to the orginal four, but your team is the only that stands a chance. Of course its complete fiction

Originally posted by Nai Fohl
So...after reading through the "Sith War (improved)" topic again I mentioned that a team with Marka Ragnos, Exar Kun, Naga Sadow and Darth Revan can't be killed by a team of canon characters. Now...I just decided to try it with non canon characters and hope you people are able to use your imagination.

Team 1: Ancient Sith Lords
Marka Ragnos
Exar Kun
Darth Revan
Naga Sadow

VS

Team 2: Nai Fohls "New Sith Order" (NSO that is) including:

Darth Vader (Anakin Skywalker at full potential)
Darth Vireous (Lord of the green) = Yoda (Dark Side)
Darth Gladius (Lord of the sword) = Mace Windu (Dark Side)
Darth Fortunous (Lord of the luck) = Obi-Wan Kenobi (Dark Side)

Imagine the three Jedi had studied the teachings of the Sith instead of becoming Jedi. Their skills in lightsaber combat remain the same as in ROTS. Who will win that fight ? Just throw anything you like in here.

NSO win IMO. Yoda, Mace, and Obi dark? That's a hell of alot of power.

Hmmm well,

Anakin at full potential beats any of them.
Yoda darkside loses to all of them but barely barely barely.
Mace darkside loses to all of them
Obi darkside loses to all of them.

mace and obi are instantly dead no matter who they face Lets just say exar and sadow. Revan takes yoda. Then the three of them fight Ani, Even if yoda beats Revan (which he wouldn't) He still has to face either exar or sadow directly afterwards exar would wreck him and sadow would probably as well. Only way I see the dark movie charachters winning is Mace dying like a n00b,obi dying like a n00b, Yoda getting lucky and somehow winning, then one sith lord faces ani and get pwned like ragnos does, next sith either kills yoda and then gets the living crap kicked out of him by ani or yoda finishes the first guy off fast enough so ani and him double team the last sith. Even then if one kills yoda fast enough they might be able to take Ani with a double team. Old sith still pwn especially Revan and Exar they wreck anything except full potential anakin.

To add my own oppinion here...

I think full developed Anakin will kill Ragnos.
For Yoda...just imagine somebody studying sith magic and dark side powers for 900 years. Urm...He pretty likely will be able to kill Naga Sadow.
Mace Windu well...he could just become as powerful as Malak but still being the greater lightsaber duelist (I guess) so he will give Revan a run for his money.
Now Kun will probably kill Obi-Wan.

I'd say all fights would last equal long. Maybe Exar Kun will kill Obi-Wan fast enough to help Revan with Mace. I don't know. For what I suggest it would come down to a 2 vs 2:

Exar Kun + Revan facing Darth Vireous (Yoda) and Darth Vader (Anakin).

Now there are two opportunities. Yoda and Anakin win their matches (Anakin vs Kun and Revan vs Yoda). Yoda might lose (still I doubt that).

You would end up with Darth Vader vs Revan and Revan losing at the end. NSO wins with Vader as last man standing.

Yoda would be good, but I don't think he can take Sadow any time fast. At least not before Exar and Revan walk away.

Imagine Obi Dark, does he seem a lot more powerful to you. I don't, Exar or Revan would still own him. Then its two against Mace either one of them would win together they would own Mace pretty fast, I think so at least.

Then its 3 against 1. By the time Yoda dies Anakin would have killed Ragnos, because thats going to be one damn hard fight without any doubt. And even then I still think Ragnos has a chance but okay. 3 against 1? Ragnos is going down. The team is nice, but Obi and Mace just do not compare.

Originally posted by MAKASHIMAN
SITH ARE OVERRATED PUNKS WHO LIKE CHEAP POWER

Your an overrated punk who needs to shut up.

Darth Vader (Anakin at full potential) would excel way above what NJO Luke Skywalker is. He could take out all these guys on his own.

The New Sith Order would tear these guys to shreads. Everyone would just eat pop-corn and drink soda, while Darth Vader just wipes them out easily...

"All too easy."

against the four best sith? unlikely, Revan and exar together could probably take him.

Could and would.

The only thing we have to go on with Anakin his power is thats its 200% Sidious. Revan and Exar would each be close to that easily... They would sure as hell be able to defeat Anakin together.