Jesus learned his wisdom from the Buddhists?

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Jesus learned his wisdom from the Buddhists?

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"Jesus in the age period 14-29

What are these many things that have not been recorded? One record that is glaringly missing is the period 14-29 years in the life of Jesus. One theory is that he went to India to be trained as a Buddhist.

The story of the Wise Men is surprisingly similar to the traditions of Buddhism, a religion 500 years older than Christianity. When a great Buddhist holy man (lama) died, wise men consult the stars and go on a long trek to find his incarnation. When he is found, he is taken from his parents when old enough and trained in the Buddhist faith. Could Jesus have been identified as an incarnation and taken to India?

The Russian explorer, Nicolai Natovich travelled to northern India in the 19th century and found a manuscript in a Tibetan monastery which he translated as 'The Unknown Life of Jesus Christ'. It tells of a divine child called Issa born to a poor family in Israel. he learnt the teachings of Buddhism before returning to Israel at 29. The later teachings and miracles of Jesus have an uncanny parallel with the Buddhist counterpart. For example, the injunction to love your enemies and the promise that the meek will inherit the earth have no precedent in Judaism but they are found in Buddhism.

Examples:

1. Mark 6:48: he went out to them walking on the lake.

Anguttara Nikaya 3:60: He walks upon the water without parting it, as if it were solid ground.

2. Mark 10:25: it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the

kingdom of heaven.

Jatakamala 5:5 & 15: Riches make a man greedy and so are like a caravan lurching down the road to hell.

3. Matthew 6:20: Lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven where moth and rust do not destroy and where

thieves do not break in and steal.

Kuddakaptha 8:9 Let the wise man do righteousness; a treasure that others cannot share, which no thief

can steal, a treasure which does not pass away.[/size]
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nope, in the bible Jesus clearly said he learned hid wisdom from God and only even in the lost years. when he was 12 he use to stay and talk with the teachers of the law and they were amazed by his wisdom at his age. many people have theories of this, but Jesus clearly says he is from heaven and learned it from the father of heaven. people will make theories about it because they aren't satisfied with what Jesus says and don't believe what he says, so they make theories about him that don't make any sense. Jesus was not an ordinary man, he is the greatest man every lived and will come back some day to restore his kingdom. many people will try and copy information and try and twist it around to sound like Jesus heard from Buddhists, Jesus even said false teachers will have false information and doctrines of him and don't be deceived by these. How can people say that Jesus learned from Buddhist when he clearly says that he learned things from the father above. doesn't make sense. the bible says as Jesus got older he wisdom was greater only because god gave him that sort of wisdom that is greater than Solomon who is regarded as the wisest man of all time. Jesus is god almighty in the flesh, he knows what the world is around him and knows about all the religions also since he created it.

Re: Jesus learned his wisdom from the Buddhists?

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[b]"Jesus in the age period 14-29

What are these many things that have not been recorded? One record that is glaringly missing is the period 14-29 years in the life of Jesus. One theory is that he went to India to be trained as a Buddhist.

The story of the Wise Men is surprisingly similar to the traditions of Buddhism, a religion 500 years older than Christianity. When a great Buddhist holy man (lama) died, wise men consult the stars and go on a long trek to find his incarnation. When he is found, he is taken from his parents when old enough and trained in the Buddhist faith. Could Jesus have been identified as an incarnation and taken to India?

The Russian explorer, Nicolai Natovich travelled to northern India in the 19th century and found a manuscript in a Tibetan monastery which he translated as 'The Unknown Life of Jesus Christ'. It tells of a divine child called Issa born to a poor family in Israel. he learnt the teachings of Buddhism before returning to Israel at 29. The later teachings and miracles of Jesus have an uncanny parallel with the Buddhist counterpart. For example, the injunction to love your enemies and the promise that the meek will inherit the earth have no precedent in Judaism but they are found in Buddhism.

Examples:

1. Mark 6:48: he went out to them walking on the lake.

Anguttara Nikaya 3:60: He walks upon the water without parting it, as if it were solid ground.

2. Mark 10:25: it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the

kingdom of heaven.

Jatakamala 5:5 & 15: Riches make a man greedy and so are like a caravan lurching down the road to hell.

3. Matthew 6:20: Lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven where moth and rust do not destroy and where

thieves do not break in and steal.

Kuddakaptha 8:9 Let the wise man do righteousness; a treasure that others cannot share, which no thief

can steal, a treasure which does not pass away.[/size]
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http://www.goacom.com/overseas-dige...-in-kashmir.htm

How cool! [/B]

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lil bitchiness, I see you caught on to this interesting theory as well. For the past three years this is a huge controversy over christianity.

Check out my thread "Jesus lived in India", I, as well as a few others, have posted some intriguing websites for you to look at if you like. Those of us that are open minded should discuss more about this topic. Feel free to post anything to my thread. I'd like to hear what everyone thinks about this theory.

I've also herd the story of the woman throwing her last piece of money into the little tray also happenend in Buddhism.Buddha lived five hundred years before Christ so I'm inclined to belive one of two things.

1.Christianity borrows from the Buddhist tradition which predates Christianity.

2.These teachings are universal and show an absolute truth when it comes to morals and ways of living.

in what ways?

In what ways?

Well, if I understand your question...many religions have overlapping teachings. There is a similar, if not nearly identical rule, for almost all of the Ten Commandments in the teachings of the Buddha. Other religions follow suit very often. Once you learn enough about many religions, you can begin to see that they all teach many of the same core beliefs...they simply focus their teachings around different traditions or figures (Moses, Jesus, Mohammad, Buddha, etc.). What mr. smiley was saying is that maybe the teachings are similar to Buddhism because they represent an overlapping between religions, and thus an underlying truth of humanity and existence.

I like the theory by the way...I'd need more evidence, but with the numerous layers of interpretation the accepted Bible has gone through, it's no more valid in my mind than any other credible-sounding story. The underlying truths are sound enough, perhaps, but the exactities of any of it is a bit suspect.

almost but still different. if you read the Hebrew bible about the red sea, it was really the reed sea instead. but still the discovery channel could lie, but still the Hebrew bible is very accurate.Christianity originally came from Judaism, but many people people went to the wrong countries and heard many things that weren't suppose to be taught by the church. I would like to get the Hebrew bible and compare it to today's bible and see what the difference is. the Torah is the most accurate because the Jews never change it. I would like to have one but it would be hard to get one and get a person to interpret it for me.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
In what ways?

Well, if I understand your question...many religions have overlapping teachings. There is a similar, if not nearly identical rule, for almost all of the Ten Commandments in the teachings of the Buddha. Other religions follow suit very often. Once you learn enough about many religions, you can begin to see that they all teach many of the same core beliefs...they simply focus their teachings around different traditions or figures (Moses, Jesus, Mohammad, Buddha, etc.). What mr. smiley was saying is that maybe the teachings are similar to Buddhism because they represent an overlapping between religions, and thus an underlying truth of humanity and existence.

I like the theory by the way...I'd need more evidence, but with the numerous layers of interpretation the accepted Bible has gone through, it's no more valid in my mind than any other credible-sounding story. The underlying truths are sound enough, perhaps, but the exactities of any of it is a bit suspect.

Exactly.I;m going to start researching this more and see what I kind find.Anyone who studies the origins of Christianity knows the eerie simularities between Jesus,Osiris,Mythra,etc.But I would also like to find underlined moral princapals that are the same in every religon.Jesus performing the same miracles as Osiris doesn't suprise me anymore,but the simularties between Jesus and Buddha is very strong in the Gospel of Thomas.

Originally posted by cking
almost but still different. if you read the Hebrew bible about the red sea, it was really the reed sea instead. but still the discovery channel could lie, but still the Hebrew bible is very accurate.Christianity originally came from Judaism, but many people people went to the wrong countries and heard many things that weren't suppose to be taught by the church. I would like to get the Hebrew bible and compare it to today's bible and see what the difference is. the Torah is the most accurate because the Jews never change it. I would like to have one but it would be hard to get one and get a person to interpret it for me.

Well I can tell you the name Joseph in Hebrew is the same name as Jesus.Joseph ben Nun of Exodus translates as Jesus son of the Fish.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
In what ways?

Well, if I understand your question...many religions have overlapping teachings. There is a similar, if not nearly identical rule, for almost all of the Ten Commandments in the teachings of the Buddha. Other religions follow suit very often. Once you learn enough about many religions, you can begin to see that they all teach many of the same core beliefs...they simply focus their teachings around different traditions or figures (Moses, Jesus, Mohammad, Buddha, etc.). What mr. smiley was saying is that maybe the teachings are similar to Buddhism because they represent an overlapping between religions, and thus an underlying truth of humanity and existence.

I like the theory by the way...I'd need more evidence, but with the numerous layers of interpretation the accepted Bible has gone through, it's no more valid in my mind than any other credible-sounding story. The underlying truths are sound enough, perhaps, but the exactities of any of it is a bit suspect.

I recommend reading "The Power of Myth".

Actually, I've read parts of "The Power of Myth". Good stuff.

Also, mr. smiley, you might be interested to know that early depictions of Orpheus (the Greek mythological character) eventually evolved from him simply playing his lyre, to him standing with the lyre, to him surrounded by animals while playing...which, at a certain point after the life of Jesus, morphed into an image of Jesus surrounded by animals. The lyre becomes a staff, but otherwise the similarities are amazing. There's even an early (pre-christ) picture of Orpheus on a crucifix, since his story was one of suffering...and though it is faded badly, it is still clear enough to make out.

I wish I could cite books or websites, but I heard it in a presentation once of a man who provided the sources, but was talking too fast for me to write them all down. In any case, thought you might find that intriguing.

-DM

I think they mention him in the Jesus Mysteries.If not,I know i've herd that name from somewhere.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Actually, I've read parts of "The Power of Myth". Good stuff.

I read it years ago and it helped start me down a path that lead from being a Christan to being a Buddhist.

Well I guess, I had already been on the path by that time, however, it did give me a lot to think about.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
What mr. smiley was saying is that maybe the teachings are similar to Buddhism because they represent an overlapping between religions, and thus an underlying truth of humanity and existence.

Thats what I think too. Not only Buddhism that shares common teachings, and stories with christianity. But we can find analogies in many other religions, even hinduism, and the sumerian religion seem to have their share.

has anyone ever read the Torah but had someone translate it for you?

Originally posted by Atlantis001
Thats what I think too. Not only Buddhism that shares common teachings, and stories with christianity. But we can find analogies in many other religions, even hinduism, and the sumerian religion seem to have their share.

I also read a book on Asia mythology that had a story of a great flood and a man that made a ship to stay alive.Don't have any sources on it though,but it was pretty interesting.

Although this theory is fascinating and I would love to believe this to be true, but......

Keep in mind, that their core philosophies differ. Buddha emphasized rebirth of the mindstream. It's questionable whether Jesus believed in reincarnation. Buddha taught that each there was no soul; Jesus did not. And Buddha never affirmed the one God, personal and supernatural, who according to Christian belief was at the heart of Jesus' teachings and of his very being.

Yes, Jesus and Buddha had some similarities in their philosophies, but some of their other views are diametrically opposed at the core of their philosophies than anything else.

Anyone here care to discuss this?

Originally posted by CosmicSurfer
Yes, Jesus and Buddha had some similarities in their philosophies, but some of their other views are diametrically opposed at the core of their philosophies than anything else.

Anyone here care to discuss this?

Most people can't agree on anything in religion. Jesus was a very smart man, and had his our ideas. To say that he couldn't have learned Buddhism because he didn't lock-step with the teaching of Buddhism is ignorants. He had his our past, he knew the religion of his home land; he blended the two teachings together.

You know I just thought of something here.....

Didn't what Jesus taught fit right in with the true intent of the two greatest laws handed down by Moses? Love your God with your whole heart, soul, mind and body, and love your neighbor as yourself. Being pure in spirit before God.