Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What kind of Buddhism are you reading about?
Hmmm...not sure if it's specific which denomination it is. I've just been trying to read up on the basic tenets of Buddhism, and what exactly the Buddha taught. I've also gotten a hold of some translated sermons and talks given by the Buddha for further reference.
I think it's safe to say that Notovich's "Issa Scrolls" are a fraud. For the obvious reason that the name "Issa" is Arabic and used in the Koran. We all know that Islam was founded by Muhammed 600 years after Jesus's death. If these scrolls were made 2000 years ago, the name "Issa" would never be used. His real name was either Yeshua, Yeshu, Yehoshua or somewhere along those lines. So the "Issa" scrolls were more likely a forgery started by the Muslims who invaded India. And from that point on the Buddhists add their own twist to this myth.
I started off in life as a Christian, so I know the doctrine well. I changed later in life to become a Buddhist, and I've done a lot of reading on the subject. What I think is really interesting is the similarities between the teachings of Jesus and the Lotus sutra. I believe Jesus read the Lotus sutra at sometime in his life. Or there is another possibility, the truth is the truth, and Jesus, if he was god, spoke the truth which is also found in the Lotus sutra.
Though being a devout Jew and learning the ways of his people, Jesus also realized something relatively few people--of any faith--realize, or certainly don't wanna admit: that there are common threads which run through all religious/spiritual perspectives (so much for MGIBTYG).
Judaism has at times been described as a religion of ethics. But Jesus, noting how true ethical behavior was falling to the wayside by many of those in power, likely sought to return to the Source. Kabbalah was still centuries away; it would not be surprising if Jesus sought masters of other faiths for the inspiration he felt he wasn't getting from Jewish leaders at that time.
I always think, the easiest way to understand the guy is 1) just as so many of us today regard organized religion as a "false god," so he must've felt that way with how Judaism was being practiced then, at least by its so-called "leaders." 2) Learning techniques in meditation, Jesus was able to, in effect, become "lucid" to the dream that is reality. It was then a matter of tranliterating what he learned from Eastern masters into a language more suitable for his people.
However, once St Paul started getting rejected by his fellow Jews ("No, he is Not the Messiah: where do you see peace??"😉, and later after Constantine put his 2-cents in...MGIBTYG became the reigning premise.
I don't believe Jesus wanted to be worshipped, if infact he was a real person. I believe he came to tell us some truths on how we can all be closer to what we would call god and how to treat other people. He knew the Pharisees were evil, like he said a clean cup on the outside, but filthy on the inside. No wonder he had such followers to listen to him and his parables. The parables were good lessons.
Originally posted by debbiejo
I don't believe Jesus wanted to be worshipped, if infact he was a real person. I believe he came to tell us some truths on how we can all be closer to what we would call god and how to treat other people. He knew the Pharisees were evil, like he said a clean cup on the outside, but filthy on the inside. No wonder he had such followers to listen to him and his parables. The parables were good lessons.
I agree with you. 😄
Re: Jesus learned his wisdom from the Buddhists?
Originally posted by lil bitchinessIIf you're talking about the so called lost years of jesus christ he didn't go to india http://www.essene.com/Issa.htm I think the muslims started that teaching and even thee essene church considers it apocrapha.
Check this out[b]"Jesus in the age period 14-29
What are these many things that have not been recorded? One record that is glaringly missing is the period 14-29 years in the life of Jesus. One theory is that he went to India to be trained as a Buddhist.
The story of the Wise Men is surprisingly similar to the traditions of Buddhism, a religion 500 years older than Christianity. When a great Buddhist holy man (lama) died, wise men consult the stars and go on a long trek to find his incarnation. When he is found, he is taken from his parents when old enough and trained in the Buddhist faith. Could Jesus have been identified as an incarnation and taken to India?
The Russian explorer, Nicolai Natovich travelled to northern India in the 19th century and found a manuscript in a Tibetan monastery which he translated as 'The Unknown Life of Jesus Christ'. It tells of a divine child called Issa born to a poor family in Israel. he learnt the teachings of Buddhism before returning to Israel at 29. The later teachings and miracles of Jesus have an uncanny parallel with the Buddhist counterpart. For example, the injunction to love your enemies and the promise that the meek will inherit the earth have no precedent in Judaism but they are found in Buddhism.
Examples:
1. Mark 6:48: he went out to them walking on the lake.
Anguttara Nikaya 3:60: He walks upon the water without parting it, as if it were solid ground.
2. Mark 10:25: it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the
kingdom of heaven.
Jatakamala 5:5 & 15: Riches make a man greedy and so are like a caravan lurching down the road to hell.
3. Matthew 6:20: Lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven where moth and rust do not destroy and where
thieves do not break in and steal.
Kuddakaptha 8:9 Let the wise man do righteousness; a treasure that others cannot share, which no thief
can steal, a treasure which does not pass away.[/size]
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http://www.goacom.com/overseas-dige...-in-kashmir.htmHow cool! [/B]
Originally posted by debbiejoThey were gnostic legends I think that were told by muslims. http://essenes.net/lifeissa0.html
I don't believe Jesus wanted to be worshipped, if infact he was a real person. I believe he came to tell us some truths on how we can all be closer to what we would call god and how to treat other people. He knew the Pharisees were evil, like he said a clean cup on the outside, but filthy on the inside. No wonder he had such followers to listen to him and his parables. The parables were good lessons.
Originally posted by debbiejoThe essenes are buddhists http://essenes.net/new/subbible.html
I don't believe Jesus wanted to be worshipped, if infact he was a real person. I believe he came to tell us some truths on how we can all be closer to what we would call god and how to treat other people. He knew the Pharisees were evil, like he said a clean cup on the outside, but filthy on the inside. No wonder he had such followers to listen to him and his parables. The parables were good lessons.
Interesting.........I've heard simular..that he went to India.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Interesting.........I've heard simular..that he went to India.
If you read the Lotus sutra and then the words of Jesus, you will see a similarity. Some of the names of things are different but the meaning is similar. That means ether, the truth is the truth and there is no connection, or Jesus read or heard about the Lotus sutra.